tag transfer

[bowsniper]

If you're worried about it, print out Mr. Elms' reply. I doubt that a CO in the field will issue a citation if you have that in hand. Better yet, go to the regs and print out the same paragraphs that Mr. Elms did. Obviously, the CO who said that the parent who transferred the tag had to be "within 50 yards" was quoting something that he remembered from the academy or was told by another CO, and was not aware that the reg had been amended. Why make it more difficult than it has to be?

 

 

It's the fish police who is making it difficult.

 

Mark

[cactus]

like most legal documents,the devil may be in the details. the current regs (ant/elk; pg 4 and 5) says "A parent" may transfer (meaning either parent or guardian). it then says "(THE parent)" must accompany. i would read that as any number of people can transfer but the actual person who tranfers must accompany, not one of the many who MAY transfer. good luck-i hope it works out for you!

[couesdiehard]

I just copied this from the 2009-2010 Hunting & Trapping Regulations. Seems to me it contradicts what Mr. Elms posted from R12-4-121:

A.R.S. 17-332

Form and contents of license; duplicate

licenses; period of validity[/b]

2. A parent, grandparent or legal guardian may allow

the parent’s, grandparent’s or guardian’s minor

child or minor grandchild to use the parent’s, grandparent’s

or guardian’s big game permit or tag to take

big game pursuant to the following requirements:

(a) The parent, grandparent or guardian must

transfer the permit or tag to the child in a manner

prescribed by the commission.

( The parent or guardian must accompany the

child in the field or, if a grandparent allows a

minor grandchild to use the grandparent’s permit

or tag, the grandparent, the parent or the

child’s guardian must accompany the child in

the field. In either case, the adult must be within

fifty yards of the child when the animal is taken.

© The child must possess a class F, class G, class

K, class M or class N license and, if under fourteen

years of age, must satisfactorily complete

the Arizona hunter education course or another

comparable hunter education course that is

approved by the director.

(d) Any big game that is taken counts toward the

child’s bag limit.

[Tines]

I don't believe any of you who say that G&F personnel aren't on the same page....no way..

[Outdoor Writer]

I just had a discussion with a contact at the AGFD about the contradictory wording in several places. It just so happens they're working on the next reg booklet as we speak. He's going to try to get everything corrected ASAP in the regs and also on the web site.

 

BUT...the RIGHT wording is the rule Gene posted. No parent or guardian necessary.

[coues krazy]

Thanks for all the help guys.

[stanley]

I just copied this from the 2009-2010 Hunting & Trapping Regulations. Seems to me it contradicts what Mr. Elms posted from R12-4-121:

A.R.S. 17-332

Form and contents of license; duplicate

licenses; period of validity[/b]

2. A parent, grandparent or legal guardian may allow

the parent's, grandparent's or guardian's minor

child or minor grandchild to use the parent's, grandparent's

or guardian's big game permit or tag to take

big game pursuant to the following requirements:

(a) The parent, grandparent or guardian must

transfer the permit or tag to the child in a manner

prescribed by the commission.

( The parent or guardian must accompany the

child in the field or, if a grandparent allows a

minor grandchild to use the grandparent's permit

or tag, the grandparent, the parent or the

child's guardian must accompany the child in

the field. In either case, the adult must be within

fifty yards of the child when the animal is taken.

© The child must possess a class F, class G, class

K, class M or class N license and, if under fourteen

years of age, must satisfactorily complete

the Arizona hunter education course or another

comparable hunter education course that is

approved by the director.

(d) Any big game that is taken counts toward the

child's bag limit.

 

 

Here's how I'm reading it: The parent or guardian who transfers the tag MUST be in the field. However, if a grandparent transfers the tag to a grandchild, the grandparent doesn't have to be the one who is with the child. A parent or guardian will do in that case.

Yes??

I don't really see what is posted here as contradictory to what Mr. Elms posted..... Just seems to go into a bit more detail as to the 'field supervision' necessary in the case of a minor child getting a tag from parent/guardian/grandparent....

 

Am I missing something?

S.

 

[AZLance]

The tag holder who signs the tag over to the child does NOT have to accompany the child. Only an adult has to accompany the child. The reason was so that a Adult who could not go on a hunt could sign the tag over to the child. I signed my deer tag over to my son this year and it was actually quite easy. I went to the Tucson G&F office and told them my intentions. They took my tag and tore it up, then issued a new tag with my sons name on it. The tag also said that it had been transferred from me. I asked the question about me being with him at all times, and they said NO, as long as an adult was with him it was fine...

[tjhunt2]

That makes sense!

 

TJ

 

[Coach]

I'm glad this is being vetted out on this forum. I was under the impression that the adult who signed over the tag had to be within 50 yards of the youth huhter. Obviously, in many circumstances this is not possible. Nice detective work.