25-06 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Bullwidgeon, that makes me sick that the BP didn't even stop.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilimanjaro Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Well, that may make you sick, but Bullwidgeon was right, you have no idea what may have been going on at the time he drove by. There could have a ton of things going on at that particular time, ie. another Agent in need of help, a call that just came out over the radio, a group spotted, a vehicle that needed a closer look at etc.. But then again, he may have been going home. Thats why there are more than just one shift. Don't you like to go home after you get off?? Contrary to belief, Agents do like to go home and have a life outside of work. Remember, it is a job. And alot of times, just because you see an agent hauling butt out of the field doesn't nessarily mean he's going home. He may still have aliens to process, a federal procecution to do, or any other tons of given paperwork to do. There is so much crap going on out there in those units at any given time that there could be a thousand agents out there and not cover the area adequately. Its a big chunk of property to try and manage with that amount of manpower. And don't forget... There is ALWAYS more of the general public out there at any given time than there are agents. That equals more eyes to find the illegals and mules that are out there.. and make it seem that BP is nowhere to be found. Don't knock someone till you walk a mile in their shoes. You want someone to bitch to about the problem, don't do it to the BP. We are the only ones out there actually trying to do something about it. If you got a problem with illegal immigration, talk to your Congressmen and the people who can actually do something about it if they really wanted to. I'll get off my soapbox now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullwidgeon Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Let me make it clear, Border patrol has nothing to due with the problems down there, I was just trying to show them some guys that potentially could have been dangerous to someone. I have a feeling those two guys and their "packs" were not coming to work at Mcdonalds here in the valley for minimum wage. I feel sorry for BP agents mostly. I am just glad I wasn't being carjacked or something and really needed some help, that might have been a heartbreaker if that was the case. That job BP has on their hands down there is about equal to trying to dam the Mississippi river with toothpicks and chewing gum, a way bigger task than our government feels like dealing with properly. Bret M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilimanjaro Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Brett, my message wasn't directed towards you or anyone else. It just seems that anytime a thread on this site is about one of the 36 units, it always turns to illegals and the BP not catching them or something to that nature. I just had to get a few words off my chest is all.. It is kinda personal to me ( if you know what I mean.. which alot of you on here do) Your analogy was right on the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyHat Report post Posted August 12, 2005 Very interesting stuff. I'm reading everything I can get on this subject as I plan on being there in January '05. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues addict Report post Posted August 12, 2005 circlet Welcome to the CWT forum. I have hunted 36c a few times. It is a great area for trophy Coues bucks. I personally like the area, but I always get a slightly uneasy feeling when hunting it. Not, for fear of myself or my hunting partners, just some concern for our personel belonging`s back in camp! Vehicles, tents, food, etc. I really like the area south of the elkhorn all the way to the border at Sasabee. I hardly ever hunt the flats, but have noticed a lot of trash down low. Usually as you get way back up in the hills it changes quite a bit. The advise that most of the others have given you, use common sense, be careful, don`t camp alone, is pretty much, right on, the way I see it! I would also tell you that coues hunting is not rocket science it just takes a lot of patient glassing as many hours of the day that you can possibly put in. Stalking them is no more difficult than any other deer. The big problem is many times you spot something you would like to go after very late in the evening and you just can`t close the distance in time for a reasonable shot. Thats why I personally like to backpack into these areas. Then you aren`t worried about making it back to base camp by a certain time. The problem then is you will start to worry about your, camp, truck, etc. thats 6 or 7 miles away. I would try to look at the area if at all possible before your hunt. The Dec. hunt is an awesome time to be out there and you have a great tag. Good luck Coues Addict P.S. I always worry about my camp a bit, when I am backpacking in. I think its just my nature. There really are no gaurantees no matter where or what unit you are in! Make sure you tell someone where you will be camped before you leave home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rugerman Report post Posted August 13, 2005 36C was my favorite unit. I hunted 8years there in all three hunts. saw the biggest coues deer I have ever seen there, probably went 120" no kiddin. Hunted pigs a few times there too. Unfortunately I am done there. I've glassed a few groups of illegals before, had friends food and water stolen and i am always worried about being shot for my truck. There are deer in other units. Actually since I was lucky enough to score a 100"buck last year I'm chasing carp with a smokepole in Oct. Good luck on your hunt and be careful. The wildlife manager for that unit was Mike Hollister, send him an email. Oh yeah and do the trash pickup down there it's a real eye opener. AZhunters who care on Oct. 22(someone correct me if I'm wrong on the date) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites