culpritz Report post Posted January 22, 2010 HAS ANY ONE HEARD THE FULL STORY ABOUT THE JAGUAR IN ARIZONA THAT WAS KILLED THIS IS ALL IVE GO ON IT SO FAR http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/201...a.html#comments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted January 22, 2010 There are some older threads on this very topic. I hate to see what can happen in regards to closures of Southern units in the state because of all this as well. I'm sure if you search the term "jaguar" you'll get many hits on the forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted January 22, 2010 The SEARCH feature is your best friend on any web site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntermncb Report post Posted January 22, 2010 i got to see this cat dead. an awesome animal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culpritz Report post Posted January 22, 2010 ALL I FOUND WAS STUFF FROM NEWS ARTICLES AND I THINK THE NEWS PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF COMMUNIST. AND WANTED SOME ACTUAL FACTS I GOT IT ALL NOW FOUND IT ON AZG&F. AND I USED MY SEARCH ENGINE THANKS TO GAMEHAULER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngbuck Report post Posted January 22, 2010 there was a press conference about it too, hosted on youtube EDIT: found it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmc Report post Posted January 23, 2010 I wonder if the press will reprint this or ignore it like others http://azgfd.net/artman/publish/NewsMedia/...on-jaguar.shtml Arizona Game and Fish responds to IG report on jaguar Jan. 22, 2010 Late yesterday afternoon (Thursday, Jan. 21), the Arizona Game and Fish Department received from the news media a redacted copy of the U.S. Department of Interior Inspector General (IG) report about events related to the jaguar known as Macho B. News stories about the report have appeared in various media outlets. The Department would note that the document represents a redacted and therefore incomplete version that gives no useful indication of what additional clarity or context the redacted material might add to the public’s understanding of it. Regardless, the Department has the following comment: 1. The Department stands by its previous statements that the Department did not direct any Department employee or any other person associated with the initial capture to intentionally capture a jaguar. Should the outcome of the ongoing Federal criminal or Department administrative investigations demonstrate that individuals employed by the Department acted contrary to the Department’s understanding of the facts or contrary to Department direction, the Department remains committed to its previous assurance that it will take or pursue appropriate action. 2. The Department is disappointed that it was at no time contacted during the IG’s investigation or prior to the release of the report. The report provided contains allegations and opinions apparently untested by the IG. Many of those assertions have been previously addressed by the Department and present little or no new information. 3. The IG notes that the Regional Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service states that the Department’s Director requested an independent investigation into the circumstances of the jaguar’s capture, and ultimate euthanization , shortly after that euthanization. The Department continues to fully cooperate with the ongoing Federal investigation and, acting in cooperation with the Service, has conducted its own extensive internal administrative investigation into the matter. The administrative investigation remains ongoing pending final resolution of the Federal investigation. 4. The Department notes that the IG apparently ignores the Section 6 authorities conveyed to the state by the Endangered Species Act and further, the IG misunderstands the scope of the Department’s authority under its Section 10(a)(1)(A) permit. The Department disagrees with any assertion in the report that the Department did not have a valid permit. 5. As noted by the IG, the full necropsy of the jaguar remains incomplete pending the inclusion of the findings of tests done by several other laboratories. The Department awaits the release of those findings by the Service. Once thoroughly reviewed, final conclusions about the jaguar’s physical condition at the time of its recapture can usefully be made. The Department will continue to cooperate fully with the Federal investigation to its completion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culpritz Report post Posted January 23, 2010 cmc thankx for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRS Report post Posted January 23, 2010 The Inspector General's office is not a law enforcement investigating agency, and its directions is to maintain integrity of the Department of the Interiors' agencies and employees. Here is their mission and responsibilities. http://www.doioig.gov/index.php?menuid=392...p;viewtype=PAGE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25-06 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/opinion/25rabinowitz.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big D Report post Posted January 26, 2010 ya the first i ever heard of it was on another forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 poor ol' tom deserved better. case o' the cure killin' ya. i don't think there is a more impressive animal than a jag. i know folks who have hunted them. i guess there ain't much tougher or meaner than a jag. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ehunt Report post Posted January 27, 2010 it will be interesting to see how this turns out...it does not look good right now for AZ game and fish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted January 27, 2010 it will be interesting to see how this turns out...it does not look good right now for AZ game and fish! Not to worry. Judging by the quote below, they're ready to throw someone to the wolves. -- Bill Quimby "The Department stands by its previous statements that the Department did not direct any Department employee or any other person associated with the initial capture to intentionally capture a jaguar. Should the outcome of the ongoing Federal criminal or Department administrative investigations demonstrate that individuals employed by the Department acted contrary to the Department’s understanding of the facts or contrary to Department direction, the Department remains committed to its previous assurance that it will take or pursue appropriate action." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites