billrquimby Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Wow Bob, You sure are contridicting yourself! Are you left / right, or are you going to stradle the fence? I personally believe that you are a trophy hunter! A trophy is in the eye of the beholder. Not the score. People ask me what a deer scores, and I ask them if they like the deer? Regardless of score. +1 I always try and challenge myself to get a big deer and sometimes I go home empty handed, but sometimes I shoot small buck just because it feels like the right thing at the moment. Mostly I would say it just depends on if the buck moves me in such a way that I want it. Most of the time, if they are little, I am just not interested and would rather keep hunting. I really love unique bucks, like when they have something unusual, super long beams that almost touch, nontypical points, extra main beams, extra large mass, etc. Love the diversity in antlers, so in general I try and get something that I haven't already shot. And despite what Bill Q seems to imply with his posts (in the other thread) that if you are trophy hunting you are not enjoying your hunt experience, I find exactly the opposite. The harder I hunt and the more bucks I pass on, the more I enjoy it. I hate to have a hunt end the first day and I can't think of any Coues hunt I have been on where I couldn't have shot a buck the first day. Amanda Hi Amanda: I don't think I said people who are obsessed with trophy size don't enjoy what they do. It's just that I believe too much emphasis is placed on antler size and record books, and that some "true trophy hunters" are motivated to hunt for the wrong reasons. I measure my hunts by the memories they produce, and not steel tapes. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elecshoc Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Jim, So your not going to hook me up? I think your definition and the majority of the communities definition of trophy hunting is different than mine and Bill's ( I am not speaking for Bill.) I guess what I am hearing is. You are a trophy hunter if you are the least bit selective in the animals you harvest. I'm ok with that definition. Under those parameters I am most definately a trophy hunter and always have been. My incrimmiating posts from a previous topic had a much stricter definition of what constituted a trophy. I guess I will need to modify my terminology when discussing this topic in the future. I really did not start this thread to talk about trophy hunting. I was just curious about the expectations people have concerning the January bow season. Are people willing to take a lesser animal with a bow and forfeit the rest of the year's opportunity for hunting. The data makes it pretty evident that harvesting a deer with a bow in Arizona is quite an accomplishment. At 6% success AZ has to be near the bottom if not last place in the entire nation as far as success with a bow goes. With these statistics in mind and the low chance for success in this state an argument could easily be made that any deer taken with a bow is a trophy! So back to the question. What size buck are you willing to burn your tag on. Bob In my opinion, there are no lesser animals. I'm going to probably be the only one here who's going to say that whatever legal animal steps into range. Whether it's going to be a spike mulie or monster coues, either one of them is going into the freezer. On another point I'm not against trophy hunting of any kind, hunting is hunting no matter how or what you choose to hunt. This is just the way I choose to go about my business. It's the way that was taught to me and that's the way I would pass it on if I do. But, hey I am hoping the monster coues is the one though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmc Report post Posted December 8, 2009 WHAT IS THE MINIMUM SIZE COUES OR CARP YOU ARE WILLING TO BURN YOUR TAG ON DURING THE FIRST MONTH OF THE SEASON? Legal... it only needs to be legal this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jonathan Report post Posted December 9, 2009 It would have to go P&Y for sure. And in case you're wondering, that stands for Poke'em Young! I personally try to shoot nothing older than 2 1/2 yo animals. Anyone can kill a mature animal, especially with a bow. The real challenge is passing up the big ones to stick one of the young-ins! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRAYLIGHT Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Brian hit the nail on the head!!! Looking forward to seeing you boys this January I will email you back in a few... I have to look at the areas again to make sure of where I'm sending you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
