TEAM JESUS Report post Posted November 29, 2009 If you are looking into something she could grow into. Then look to the t/c encores. You can start real small like with 22-250 now. Then when she is older, she can move up to the 300 win mag (joke) 358. Many more calibers to choose from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted November 29, 2009 If you are looking into something she could grow into. Then look to the t/c encores. You can start real small like with 22-250 now. Then when she is older, she can move up to the 300 win mag (joke) 358. Many more calibers to choose from. Including 7MM-08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngbuck Report post Posted November 29, 2009 If your going to reload I would not suggest the WSSM. They are not all that bad but really trick at first. You gotta bump the shoulder back or you cant hardly lift the bolt handle or close it. Not sure what factory offerings are now. Seems like they dropped abunch at least in 223wssm. I think a 243 or 2506 would be at the top of my list. I started w/ a 243. It did a number on pigs WT and MD, even an elk when i was 10. I also had the option of shooting my dads 2506 when i was 10. It was too much recoil for me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghost hunter Report post Posted November 30, 2009 I bought a Ruger 308 in a youth model for my son when he was 11. Kicked like a mule. Had to put an extra recoil pad on it. Nice gun, short, light, easy to carry, but it kicks. FWIW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Report post Posted January 25, 2010 I know this is an old post, but I just saw it. I got my 11 year old daughter a 270. I have had her shooting reduced recoiled bullets made by Remington. These reduced recoil bullets have a comparable kick to a 243. I think the felt recoil is about 9 lbs, vs 16lbs of a regular loaded 270 (I looked at recoil charts before I made the decision). It is very comfortable for her to shoot and I was surprised about how little the recoil is. The reduced recoil ammo comes in 115 grain, which I think is fine for deer. A little light for elk, but I won't let her shoot past 100 yards. Eventually, she can shoot regular ammo, 130 or 150 grain out of the 270. This is why I chose the 270 over the 243, which only comes 100 grain ammo. Actually, I think you can get 115...... They also make the reduced recoil ammo in 30-06 and 300wm. Sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 now there's a smart feller. .270 walks off and leaves the pudgun, 7mm/08. try either 100 or 110 grain bullets. they shoot very well and very flat and really cut the kick from 130's. the 115's should be ok too, but if you reload you have a lot more options. i always wished somebody made a 120 for the .270. 150s are a little punky in a .270. especially if you're gonna load em for reduced recoil. they carry downrange quite well, but they ain't no hotrod. also, try a simms recoil pad. they really help. you can look through reloading books for a week and you can't find a more anemic round than the 7mm/08. slow, shoots like a rainbow and bounces off most furry critters bigger than a cottontail. to me, the best round for a kid is a .243. with 85's or 100's it is a great big game rifle. plenty for anything in this state. as long as you can shoot. all the .243 wssm's i've seen didn't work for nothin' in the rifles they were in. the little fat short round doesn't seem to work well in a bolt action. you made a wise choice with the .270. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted January 26, 2010 Don't know if Santa had a rifle fall off the sleigh, but.. Why did she not like the 7-08? Excessive recoil, muzzle blast, poor rifle fit? No one has mentioned choosing a rifle built to fit and 11 YO girl. How about a Rem 700 Compact for easy handling, cut the stock to the right length and put on a cushy Sims recoil pad. Then you can buy a full size replacement stock for when she grows bigger. Chamberings: 7-08 in 700 Compact with Managed Recoil ammo to start. 270 Win in Rem 700 Youth with managed recoil ammo. Finding a rifle in 243 WSSM may be hard for the dying cartridge, as would be finding ammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 we need to rename the 7/08 the michael jackson gun. he's dead, been dead for a long time, but all his weirdo fans keep talkin' about him. just like the 7/08. anything that anemic is dead. but the 4 guys that still like em can't keep from talkin' about how good it was. hooo hoo. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 26, 2010 MY daughter shoots a NEF 7mm-08 and she weighs about a buck ten soaking wet. It has a nice pad on it and a 12 1/2 inch length of pull and she has put quite a few stiff reloads through it. Never has said anything about it kicking, so I'm not going to bring it up. She shoots 139 grain Hornadys backed by 40 grains of 25-20. Taken elk, deer, and a couple of "Michael Jacksons" including this one yesterday. Course she had to hold real High at a hundred yards because of the " rainbow arc" of the "anemic" round. I just wish we could get it to "bounce off" a few critters so I could get the blood out from under my fingernails. By the way LARK, my dad doesn't like it either. In his words, "Why would you go and buy that when you got a 6.5x55". The "GQ" shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues&Bass Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I started my daughter who is now 14 with a 20ga. shotgun at 12 hunting dove and quial know she is shooting a .270 ruger mark VII just fine. Just my 2 cents. Great pic love the Grahams covered in snow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 singleshot, that is a right cute girl. why you wanna put the stigma on her of usin' a michael jackson gun? poor kid. she's gonna hafta have a lotta counselllin' fer sher. your ol' man always liked them wierd ca'tridges. but i sorta like the 6.5 swede too. i remember once i think when kelly's sporting goods was goin' outta business on main street he had a big grin on his face once at school because he got such a good deal on some rifles there. they were them ol' jap arisakies or some deal. butt ugliest things i ever seen and in a caliber the japs don't even use anymore. he was all proud of em. like fred sanford always said, "ugly gun, uuuuuugly gun". Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 26, 2010 $150.00 AAA blank and a $20.00 action, that's my Dad. He built up all those Arisakas on a decent piece of wood, cut the barrels to 20 inches, mounted pistol scopes on them, and sent them to kin in Wisconsin. Reinvented the brush gun. Been a lotta bucks fallin to those metrics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 did he ever tell ya about him and his friend choppin' the hole in the pickup fender tryin' to finish off a deer? Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueswt Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I bought my wife (115lbs) a 7mm08 in a Win model 70 compact, put a muzzlebreak and a new recoil pad on and she has no problem shooting it. The gun is light weight and shoots 140 nosler partition, ballistic tips, and accubonds great. She killed a great elk at 85 yards and it went only 30 yards plus a big antelope at 300 yards that never moved. After carrying a heavy rifle for a week last year, i started carrying her rifle and killed a coues buck at 250 yards. I think it is a great all around cartridge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Report post Posted January 27, 2010 Don't know if Santa had a rifle fall off the sleigh, but.. Why did she not like the 7-08? Excessive recoil, muzzle blast, poor rifle fit? No one has mentioned choosing a rifle built to fit and 11 YO girl. How about a Rem 700 Compact for easy handling, cut the stock to the right length and put on a cushy Sims recoil pad. Then you can buy a full size replacement stock for when she grows bigger. Chamberings: 7-08 in 700 Compact with Managed Recoil ammo to start. 270 Win in Rem 700 Youth with managed recoil ammo. Finding a rifle in 243 WSSM may be hard for the dying cartridge, as would be finding ammo. Definitely right on about the fit. I took the beautiful wood stock off the my BDL .270 and bought a synthetic youth stock from Remington. I actually cut that down by an inch. It came with a nice Limbsaver pad. So, now it fits my daughter like a glove. My plan is to put the wood stock back on when she gets older - or get another synthetic stock - $100 from Cabela's or Ramline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites