bobbyo Report post Posted October 24, 2009 I feel I am fully trained to take on murders from the drug cartels. I have seen The Outlaw Josie Wells at least 50 times. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcoues33 Report post Posted October 24, 2009 I am so sick of hearing about this happening to U.S. residents something need's to be done. All I have to say is if something like this happened to me they better make sure they got the jump on me because if not we won't have to worry about them robbing anyone else ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natureboyfloyd Report post Posted October 26, 2009 three things: 1st, defend yourself in Pima county, and isn't Isabel Garcia the public defender? Objectively, that can not be a plus in your favor. 2nd, re: the hypothetical...Hammy hit the nail right on. How exactly do we tell, without fail, the bad guy from the good guy. Recall the idiot brothers that held a family of Americans, who happened to be Hispanic, at gunpoint when the folks were hunting on state land. Even if I get the details a little off, the gist is BE CAREFUL. Half of all the youngsters I see eyeing rifles in gun stores are "other-than-white", and since I and others do not always hunt in head to head camo, well it is reasonable to maybe approach two guys who look like trouble, with what appears to be AK series rifles, or AR series, in working clothes, and you begin to really start thinking about how careful we need to be. 3rdly, Who really can hit a moving target? Probably our recent combat veteran members could, and if the drug runners you happen across practice alot, they might, but I miss a lot of doves.... In the 101st, decades past, we did live fires on pop up targets with full auto. Results were not impressive. To brag, I hit my target, but only because the other 8 guys missed in front of me. In fact, and I digress, a 1st Sgt. placed human shaped targets in all manners of clothing all over the "kill zone" of a live fire zone, at night. Three platoons, @ 25 guys each, firing at a Mule (utility cart) pulled by a jeep, firing basically huge shotgun shells callled claymore mines, firing several mags. each and belts of ammo, STILL did not touch a few of the targets. @ 75 trained men, thousands of rounds, and I recall at least two targets, standing up, were untouched. Think on it. If no one is in danger, get yardage and foilage between the drug runners; just get that extra 10-20 yards, and I bet darn near all of us would live another day, and not have to face a hostile jury. (And, without a doubt, most of you guys and gals are accomplished marksmen.) I'd rather face two AK's than one seriously motivated hunter with a bolt gun or lever rifle. See above) P.S. Read The Reaper's Line, for the correct attitude to adopt when facing criminals from the Republic of Mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Payne Report post Posted October 26, 2009 I think memorizing the following phrase might help you in a big way "Somos cazadores. No hemos visto nada" We are hunters. We haven't seen anything. Then go over the hill and call BP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stray Horse Report post Posted October 26, 2009 I have been hunting the southern units in AZ for 30 years. I saw my first set of Illegals when I was in grade school on a javelina hunt east of Douglas. Since that time time, I have see both armed and unarmed illegals. The impact these illegals have on the environment is incredible. Everyone ready this post knows this and I'm sure you are all disgusted. But, what many people don't think about is the impact these illegals have on society. For the past 16 years, I have worked in education, as a high school teacher, coach and counselor. You know were the kids of these drug smugglers and illegals end up - right next to yours in class. It is incredible how many illegals go through our school system - and we can't do a thing about it. Now, granted, I would rather have an educated illegal rather than an uneducated. However, when our class sizes are 40 and our educators don't get paid worth a darn, I have a hard time going out on a limb for someone who doesn't even speak English. Help our Boarder Patrol as much as possible. Let Sheriff Joe do his job and give our schools power to educate Americans. And yes, I have a late November tag in 36A - hoping for the best! +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
