willhunt4coues Report post Posted September 11, 2009 Here is the link to watch the meeting live...... http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/CommissionCam.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arizonaelitefreak Report post Posted September 11, 2009 Here is the link to watch the meeting live...... http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/CommissionCam.shtml what meeting? lol just kiding when is the meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willhunt4coues Report post Posted September 11, 2009 Today and tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted September 11, 2009 Thanks for the link Clay!! Amanda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted September 11, 2009 I watched a little. Sounded like they will be going to online boat registration, license purchases and hunt applications, but may take a year. Commissioner Martin also said that they need to look at the 20% draw where one can draw their second choice and not first choice in the max point pool, and there still be permits for the first choice remaining after the 1-2 pass, or even as leftovers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John O Report post Posted September 14, 2009 I watched a little. Sounded like they will be going to online boat registration, license purchases and hunt applications, but may take a year. Commissioner Martin also said that they need to look at the 20% draw where one can draw their second choice and not first choice in the max point pool, and there still be permits for the first choice remaining after the 1-2 pass, or even as leftovers. I would like to see the max point pool second choice rule changed. My son missed out on a youth tag last year because of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arizonaelitefreak Report post Posted September 15, 2009 I watched a little. Sounded like they will be going to online boat registration, license purchases and hunt applications, but may take a year. Commissioner Martin also said that they need to look at the 20% draw where one can draw their second choice and not first choice in the max point pool, and there still be permits for the first choice remaining after the 1-2 pass, or even as leftovers. I would like to see the max point pool second choice rule changed. My son missed out on a youth tag last year because of that. what is the max point pool second choice rule and how does that work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted September 15, 2009 what is the max point pool second choice rule and how does that work? First Pass (20% Bonus Point) Twenty percent of authorized hunt permit-tags in each hunt number for deer, antelope, elk, turkey, javelina, and spring bear may be issued in this pass. Twenty percent of the total authorized hunt permit-tags (all hunt numbers combined) for both bighorn sheep and buffalo may be issued. Although 20 percent are available, the 10% nonresident caps are still in effect. Each valid application is assigned the lowest random number from those generated for that application. The application file for each species is sorted by group bonus points in descending sequence and then by random number within the bonus point groupings. In the Bonus Pass, the first and second hunt choices for all applications with maximum bonus points are looked at first. If permits are still available from the 20% allocation, then the next lower bonus point category is looked at; and so on, until all of the 20% allocation is issued or until all applications with 1 or more bonus points are read. Applications with zero bonus points will not be included in the 20% Bonus Pass of the Draw. As each application is read, the first and then second hunt choices are checked to see if there are any permits available as part of the 20% bonus point allocation. If there are enough permits available for each applicant on the application without exceeding the 20% allocation or the nonresident cap, the permits are issued to that application. If not, the next application is read and the first and second hunt choices are checked until the entire application file is read. Any unissued permits from the "bonus point pass" will be returned to the available permits for each hunt. The Drawing will then continue to the next two passes. If one chooses a hard to draw first choice and an easy second choice, it is possible that the applicant may not have enough BP to be considered for their first choice in this pass. But he may have an good chance to draw for some hunts that may require only a few BP to be in the top pool. Hence one can draw second choice without really being considered for the first choice in the next regular part of the draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John O Report post Posted September 15, 2009 I watched a little. Sounded like they will be going to online boat registration, license purchases and hunt applications, but may take a year. Commissioner Martin also said that they need to look at the 20% draw where one can draw their second choice and not first choice in the max point pool, and there still be permits for the first choice remaining after the 1-2 pass, or even as leftovers. I would like to see the max point pool second choice rule changed. My son missed out on a youth tag last year because of that. what is the max point pool second choice rule and how does that work? For my situation, I put my son in for Jr. javelina first choice, and a general rifle javelina second choice. Since he has a bonus point from hunter ed, he was put into the 20% max bonus point pool. Having not drawn first choice in this pool, he was awarded a tag for the general rifle hunt. Come to find out, there were left over tags for the Jr. hunt. I called G&F, who told me that the only way around the problem was to put the Jr. hunt down for his first and second choice. The only time this should be done is for a hunt with 100% draw odds, otherwise you may not get a tag at all. Lesson learned, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites