Ground blinds and photo radar

[Non-Typical Solutions]

Spent some time down in the big city this weekend and noticed more photo radar, but find it interesting that they spend so much money warning us about exactly where they are.

 

In all reality, they should not post any warning signs, because they already posted the sign that says 65MPH.

 

Then I got to thinking about the poor animals out there just walking in for their normal drink and WHAM....they get nailed by some hunter in a blind.

 

So the deer sit around the campfire that night realizing that one of their buddies is missing and discussing how really fair it is to have hunters hunting them from a blind that they are not smart enough to figure out. So they approach the AZGF and request that signs be put up warning all wildlife that blinds with hunters in them may be present at favorite waterholes and trails.

 

All this talk about stolen cameras and blinds has got me wondering where the hunt has gone and how we end up being our own worst enemy out there.

 

Scrap the cameras and the blinds and wala, no more stolen cameras and blinds

Try going out and finding the animals and sneaking up on them. New old concept, probably not as productive as the cameras and blinds but still a pretty fun way to go.

 

I know the next thing you are gonna tell me is to leave my gun and bow behind and hunt with a stick

[Str8Shot]

I hear ya there...... Can't lose em if your not using em ..... And as far as the signs on photo radar that is based on entraptment laws and it being illeagle to do so, and we stilll have the constitutionality of photo radars and I don't think yet to date one was able to take the stand and answer questions from the accused ones counsel ... So is the next logical step to attach the photo radar to a missle launcher and shoot down the unknowing like and archer from a treestand??????

 

[Guest 300ultramag.]

intriguing

 

 

 

 

[Redman]

Spent some time down in the big city this weekend and noticed more photo radar, but find it interesting that they spend so much money warning us about exactly where they are.

 

In all reality, they should not post any warning signs, because they already posted the sign that says 65MPH.

 

Then I got to thinking about the poor animals out there just walking in for their normal drink and WHAM....they get nailed by some hunter in a blind.

 

So the deer sit around the campfire that night realizing that one of their buddies is missing and discussing how really fair it is to have hunters hunting them from a blind that they are not smart enough to figure out. So they approach the AZGF and request that signs be put up warning all wildlife that blinds with hunters in them may be present at favorite waterholes and trails.

 

All this talk about stolen cameras and blinds has got me wondering where the hunt has gone and how we end up being our own worst enemy out there.

 

Scrap the cameras and the blinds and wala, no more stolen cameras and blinds

Try going out and finding the animals and sneaking up on them. New old concept, probably not as productive as the cameras and blinds but still a pretty fun way to go.

 

I know the next thing you are gonna tell me is to leave my gun and bow behind and hunt with a stick

 

Stick..... heck with the stick....I was going to say a rock....no wait....we must tackle the animal and kill it with our bear hands, but only when when its not eating, because if they can't drink in peace they must be able to eat in peace.....

 

Redman

 

[DesertBull]

Spent some time down in the big city this weekend and noticed more photo radar, but find it interesting that they spend so much money warning us about exactly where they are.

 

In all reality, they should not post any warning signs, because they already posted the sign that says 65MPH.

 

Then I got to thinking about the poor animals out there just walking in for their normal drink and WHAM....they get nailed by some hunter in a blind.

 

So the deer sit around the campfire that night realizing that one of their buddies is missing and discussing how really fair it is to have hunters hunting them from a blind that they are not smart enough to figure out. So they approach the AZGF and request that signs be put up warning all wildlife that blinds with hunters in them may be present at favorite waterholes and trails.

 

All this talk about stolen cameras and blinds has got me wondering where the hunt has gone and how we end up being our own worst enemy out there.

 

Scrap the cameras and the blinds and wala, no more stolen cameras and blinds

Try going out and finding the animals and sneaking up on them. New old concept, probably not as productive as the cameras and blinds but still a pretty fun way to go.

 

I know the next thing you are gonna tell me is to leave my gun and bow behind and hunt with a stick

 

what a joke

 

[standman]

Think I found one of those signs by the AZGFD today:

 

ATTENTION YOGI:

 

You are now entering a prickly pear/acorn patch. There may be hunters in stands/blinds or on opposite ridge 500 yards away with high power optics ready to end your last meal without notice. Please proceed with caution in gorging yourselves. Also tell Boo Boo to avoid picnic basket under cedar tree.

 

Live long and prosper.

 

Thank You,

 

AZGFD

[Non-Typical Solutions]

Spent some time down in the big city this weekend and noticed more photo radar, but find it interesting that they spend so much money warning us about exactly where they are.

 

In all reality, they should not post any warning signs, because they already posted the sign that says 65MPH.

 

Then I got to thinking about the poor animals out there just walking in for their normal drink and WHAM....they get nailed by some hunter in a blind.

 

So the deer sit around the campfire that night realizing that one of their buddies is missing and discussing how really fair it is to have hunters hunting them from a blind that they are not smart enough to figure out. So they approach the AZGF and request that signs be put up warning all wildlife that blinds with hunters in them may be present at favorite waterholes and trails.

 

All this talk about stolen cameras and blinds has got me wondering where the hunt has gone and how we end up being our own worst enemy out there.

 

Scrap the cameras and the blinds and wala, no more stolen cameras and blinds

Try going out and finding the animals and sneaking up on them. New old concept, probably not as productive as the cameras and blinds but still a pretty fun way to go.

 

I know the next thing you are gonna tell me is to leave my gun and bow behind and hunt with a stick

 

what a joke

 

Exactly my point....if we keep it up we will have regulations regulating the regulations we already have......what ever happened to just a little common sense out there???

 

[natureboyfloyd]

I sorta agree with Redneck. I do not use the blind , nor cameras, and besides the fact I can not afford them, they seem abit intrusive. We all bitch about Big Brother ( or at least need to wake up and start bitching), but will cover a water hole with survelliance....

 

However, the Spanish philosopher, in Meditations on Hunting, Ortega Y Gasset, mentioned that we moderns are so removed from nature that our modern improvements merely close the gap. Since he wrote "In our time-which is a rather stupid time-hunting is not considered a serious matter...", I take him seriously. If a man wants to photograph any deer coming into the stocktank, and me taking a 'weee!", his or her own adult decision.

 

The late Sen. Kennedy wrote 300 laws. I doubt we need another for a cuddiecamera, or whatever the thing is called.

 

Y Gasset also wrote "Primitive man is, by definition, tactile man"; anyone who gets into the Sonoran or Maderan to think about an animal and water, paths, whatnot, is tactile.

 

By the way, such a cool day, with clouds, gets my hunting and gathering urges to the surface.

 

 

[desertdog]

However, the Spanish philosopher, in Meditations on Hunting, Ortega Y Gasset, mentioned that we moderns are so removed from nature that our modern improvements merely close the gap. Since he wrote "In our time-which is a rather stupid time-hunting is not considered a serious matter...

 

Have we really started to quote Spanish philosopher's on a hunting site. What the heck have we become

[hoghntr]

However, the Spanish philosopher, in Meditations on Hunting, Ortega Y Gasset, mentioned that we moderns are so removed from nature that our modern improvements merely close the gap. Since he wrote "In our time-which is a rather stupid time-hunting is not considered a serious matter...

 

Have we really started to quote Spanish philosopher's on a hunting site. What the heck have we become

 

[TREESTANDMAN]

For those of you who don't use cameras...you are missing out on a lot of fun. It is awesome to find a great looking trail crossing with lots of coues tracks and find out what bucks are using the area. I enjoy checking my cameras just about as much as I enjoy opening presents on Christmas day!!! I can't afford them either but I budget and save and buy them because it is worth it to me. I've gotten a bunch stolen but I'm going to continue to make them, buy them and put them out because I enjoy it. I don't give a rip what you liberals have to say about it.

 

If you don't think cameras are ethical then don't buy one! The same BS could be said about high powered binoculars and rifles, radios, GPS, Spotting scopes, guns with scopes, blah blah blah!! How about we quit these ridiculous " I don't think this is ethical" posts and go out shed hunting instead! Sell your computer and buy a few trail cameras to get pictures of coatimundi's and bobcats that you didn't know were in the area you hunt!!!

 

Again, if you don't agree with trail cameras....don't use them!! Everybody has different tactics of hunting!!! I don't bash lion hunters because they use dogs!! I think that is one of the toughest hunts there is!!

 

 

[Red Rabbit]

However, the Spanish philosopher, in Meditations on Hunting, Ortega Y Gasset, mentioned that we moderns are so removed from nature that our modern improvements merely close the gap. Since he wrote "In our time-which is a rather stupid time-hunting is not considered a serious matter...

 

Have we really started to quote Spanish philosopher's on a hunting site. What the heck have we become

 

 

 

Meditations on Hunting by Jose Ortega y Gasset

 

Meditations on Hunting is the most quoted book in sporting literature. It is the finest work on the essence and ethics of hunting. Today when both hunting and fishing are often condemned, Meditations takes on an even greater significance. Ortega points out that life is a dynamic interchange between man and his surroundings. He explains that hunting is part of man's very nature, that "hunting is a universal and impassioned sport...it is the purest form of human happiness. The essence of hunting or fishing involves a complete code of ethics of the most distinguished design. The sportsman who accepts the sporting code of ethics keeps his commandments in the greatest solitude with no witnesses or audience other than the sharp peaks of the mountain, the stern oak, and the passing animal."

 

"If you haven't read this legendary little book, you might wonder if an essay originally written by a Spanish philosopher as an introduction to a friend's big game hunting memoirs could have any relevance to a modern bird hunter. I'd say it's not only "relevant', it's absolutely essential reading for any thoughtful hunter and fisherman. ...and now Wilderness Adventures has brought out what I think will be the standard: a beautiful slipcased edition, bound in fine cloth, with excellent pencil illustrations by Eldridge Hardie and a new foreword by Datus Proper. It's the one to own." -- Steve Bodio, Shooting Sportsman

 

[desertdog]

Scrap the cameras and the blinds and wala, no more stolen cameras and blinds

 

Okay I have my own thoughts about cameras, they really don't bother me to much if they are used correctly. But to say just scrap them and they wont be stolen is BS in my opinion. I do not own a trail camera or a blind. But I do believe that people have the right to use them and put them out as long as the are fallowing the law and use common courtesy. Just because they are out does not give other the right to take or tamper with other peoples property. That argument is the same as saying well if you drive a car your just asking for it to be stolen. That is horse crap.

 

 

 

[AZantlerhead]

I was just listening to Charlie Daniels' " what this world needs is a few more rednecks, Just a coincidence .

 

I'll reply to this Debate not in an essay as i usually do but in Gamehaulers form of short, blunt statements.

 

Stealing is wrong.

I wish I had cameras.

Cameras take work too,

Ol' fashioned hunting is harder.

Camera pics are like shopping for bucks online.

Trail cam pics are cool.

Anything left in the woods, assume it will get stolen.

So basically I wish I had cams but can do without.

I'm starting to use a stand and blind, patience given.

 

 

Hey what's better, a Chevy or Ford? , CHEVY BABY!!! lol

[Non-Typical Solutions]

DD, I agree with you, common courtesy goes a long way and something that judging from the posts on this site is up for debate.

 

We have gone from stealing blinds, to setting cameras to catch camera thieves, to threatning to steal blinds, to blunting anybody who comes close. I was trying to poke fun at it all because it seems to me that common courtesy is severly lacking.

 

Common courtesy says that you don't mess with other people's stuff

Common courtesy says that you don't tie up all the water holes with blind, signs or otherwise to protect your hunting spots

Common courtesy says that if somebody got to your spot you had planned, you go to plan B

Common courtesy says that if I am fishing at a hole on the creek or lake, you give me my space

The list goes on forever..............I agree, common courtesy is the answer.

 

But then again, it falls under that "ethical" word that nobody wants to talk about without getting a burr under their saddle.....

 

Some day I will own a trail cam and a blind, but haven't graduated to that level yet.....