something fishy in the powder industry

[hawkeye]

Ok I get it. The Dems. got elected everyone panics and buys up all of the reloading supplies. Ok 10 months later and no one still has any powder. I would buy the buying frenzy senario if there were anything to buy. Every retailer I have talked to is only getting a couple of pounds of this and a couple of pounds of that. So how can their be a buying frenzy if there is nothing to buy. Nobody has recieved any amount of reloading supplies for months.

Me thinks there is a little price manipulation going on here. I think they saw an opportuinty and jumped on it. What powder is out there is double priced from a year ago.

The oil companies have this act down to an art. You watch, when they start sending more powder out it will have jumped 50% from last year. A manipulation of supply and demand. Hold it back and people will pay anything to get it.

 

May be way off but I talked to Alient powder today and the response was the same. "We have a buying frenzy because of the Dems." I bought it last year but there has to be something on the shelves to have a buying frenzy. If the retailers were recieving the powder they are ordering, and it was being bought up I would believe the story.

they are right, all two pounds they recieve every once in a while does go fast

[joeybari]

thats the samthing thats happening with all the ammo

[azhuntergirl]

Have you checked out http://www.bearmountainsports.com/ ? Hodgdon powder seems to be producing decent quantities.

 

Here is a few articles that may help explain.

 

Run on Ammo/Reloading Supplies

Juneau Empire take on shortage

Beretta releases June Gun Sales

 

Just a few things I found while browsing.

[hawkeye]

you know those articles talk about self defense and pistols. No one I know uses rl 25 for pistols or for self defense guns. It is for large magnum rifles. And like I said I believe that was the case in the begining, but how can there be a buying frenzy when there is no product to buy. Every retailer I talked to said that everything is on back order and that they recieve small quantities when they do recieve it.

Like I said I may be way off, and the problem may lie with the wholesalers. Just my observation is that if they are not getting the product on the shelves how can they be calling it a buying frenzy. If they were recieving their full orders and it was flying off the shelf then I could understand.

[azhuntergirl]

If you're talking about reloading, then it could have something to do with the fact that companies like Hornady, Winchester, Remington, etc. etc. have their own ammunition to produce, so any powder supplies and primers could very well be reaching their factories, but not going any further.

[TAM]

It could also be there is some back log with the manufacturers trying to re-supply the market. Perhaps they can't make the stuff fast enough to re-supply all the empty shelves and keep up with the current demand?

[GameHauler]

If you're talking about reloading, then it could have something to do with the fact that companies like Hornady, Winchester, Remington, etc. etc. have their own ammunition to produce, so any powder supplies and primers could very well be reaching their factories, but not going any further.

 

And the big boy suppliers like Midway, Natchez that buy way more stuff than

than our local shops have buying power.

I get Email notification when stuff comes to them and it is gone REAL fast.

My reading shows the manufactures are running at 110% and just can not keep up.

They know it will slow soon and don't want to spend a ton of money for more equipment

and put on a third shift just to have it sit around latter and lay off a bunch of folks