Long range shooting

[hawkeye]

Man if you are serious about getting a long range shooter, I don't think you could do any better than contacting 30-378 shtr. He is selling his dream rifle. I have seen that rifle shoot. It is amazing. I don't think you could get a better shooting rifle for the price. I know he has over three thousand dollars in that thing. And man it will step out there.

[Red Rabbit]

308Nut,

I did a comparison of the 338 Edge(RUM) to the 300 RUM and 7 RUM, using heavier SMK bullets. Data is for 200 yard zero, 5000' elevation, 70*. At 1000 yards that Edge is a winner for retained vel, Energy and especially wind drift (" with 10mph wind). Might be overkill on a Coues, but impressive for elk.

 

Cartridge, Bullet/MV, Elev @1000, Vel@1000, Energy@1000, WDrift@1000

 

338 Edge 300 SMK, 2830, -226, 1959, 2557, 38

300 RUM 220 SMK, 2975, -212, 1974, 1904, 41

300 RUM 200 AB, 3100, -207, 1903, 1608, 47

7 RUM 160 AB, 3230, -199, 1888, 1266, 50

7 RUM 175 SMK 3100, -225, 1739, 1176, 58

6.5 WSM 130Scir 3260, -189, 1992, 1145, 46

 

My coues gun is a 6.5 WSM shooting a 130 Scirocco. LR data shown in the table

 

Doug~RR

[308Nut]

Thanks RR. When you factor the "paper ballistics" together with the tuneability and rediculous accuracy and a decent barrel/throat life this round offers, it starts to make sense. My only complaint (if you want to call it that) is that it generates a bit more recoil than I am used to but it is managable. Also my Edge weighs in at 12.5 pounds scoped. Most Edges out there are 15-16 pounds. This eliminates quite a bit of the recoil.

[TAM]

Thanks RR. When you factor the "paper ballistics" together with the tuneability and rediculous accuracy and a decent barrel/throat life this round offers, it starts to make sense. My only complaint (if you want to call it that) is that it generates a bit more recoil than I am used to but it is managable. Also my Edge weighs in at 12.5 pounds scoped. Most Edges out there are 15-16 pounds. This eliminates quite a bit of the recoil.

 

That's my only problem with the Edge or I'd own one. It's just not practical (IMO) to pack into the field. My scoped 300 RUM with a 28 inch barrel only weighs 8 and change.

 

[308Nut]

Defensive edge makes a 10 pound version which is more managable for hunting.

[Red Rabbit]

I saw where McWhorter Rifles makes a 6 lb 15 oz 338 Edge.

Wonder if its nickname is "the snotkicker"?

[308Nut]

I saw where McWhorter Rifles makes a 6 lb 15 oz 338 Edge.

Wonder if its nickname is "the snotkicker"?

 

I think it is the widowmaker.

 

Seriously OUCH! Kills on one end cripples on the other. Cant tell which end.

[Diamondbackaz]

Get one of these with a Lilja barrel in 300 RUM http://www.mcmfamily.com/mcmillan-rifles-c...outdoorsman.php . Top it with a Loupy scope with turrets and you would be good to go. These guys are local too.

[firstcoueswas80]

What I would build:

 

Barrel : 25-26 inch Lilja

Action: Remington 700, of course

Stock: McMillan in what ever configuration I wanted at the time.

Talley one piece rings

Zeiss 4.5-14x44 with turrets.

Caliber? Either one of the big 30's... 300 RUM, 300 wby, etc OR (and probably this one) a big, fast 7mm. 7 RUM, 7 WBY. 7 mm's are more than enough for anything, and their bullets tend to have the highest BC's around.

[Hooked_on_Coues]

Doug,

 

Could you run the ballistics on the 6.5 with a 140 berger going 3050fps?

 

I am curious to see the difference with the big boys guns.

[Red Rabbit]

HOC,

@1000 yards w/200 yard zero:

-211" elev, 1906 fps, 1129 ft-lb Energy, 46" wind drift.

 

I have been using PointBlank Ballistcs, which is a free download from

http://huntingnut.com/

 

Have also used JBM (look under calculations)

http://www.jbmballistics.com/

 

Doug~RR