Ernesto C Report post Posted June 11, 2009 I guess unit 45 is not a coues secret anymore Oh man!! my secret unit!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted June 11, 2009 hello - I guess all the info on percentage figures -getting drawn and success rates and figuring the best places to hunt was very difficult - like picking up a set of G&F regs and reading the printed report ! gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues 'n' Sheep Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Whatever.... .... Easterns in AZ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted June 12, 2009 I think that instructor needs to go to school Haha yeah I am having trouble swallowing it myself. Hence the post. But I figured this would be the best site to post on because the members here should actually be able to tell the difference between deer species. There is only one species of white-tailed deer in the world, and that is the Odocoileus virginianus. Depending upon who is counting, there are about 30 subspecies of this species in North America (of which our Coues whitetail is just one) and another eight subspecies in South America. The deer you call a "eastern" whitetail could be any of about two dozen subspecies found in the eastern United States and Canada, but one thing is certain and that is this: only O.v. couesi occurs naturally in Arizona. If someone says he has seen an "eastern" whitetail roaming within our borders, he was either 1.) drunk, 2.) totally ignorant, or 3.) a world-class fibber. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertdog Report post Posted June 12, 2009 If someone says he has seen an "eastern" whitetail roaming within our borders, he was either 1.) drunk, 2.) totally ignorant, or 3.) a world-class fibber. Bill Quimby Or he is all 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted June 12, 2009 I guess unit 45 is not a coues secret anymore Oh man!! my secret unit!! Here a couple of white tails from 45. So they are not eastern........they are western !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjhunt2 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 I have seen some eastern whitetails here in Arizona but they have always been on a wall and brought in from another state. Very nice bucks Ernesto C. TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WOODSAZ Report post Posted June 12, 2009 If someone says he has seen an "eastern" whitetail roaming within our borders, he was either 1.) drunk, 2.) totally ignorant, or 3.) a world-class fibber. Bill Quimby I know there are no easterns in AZ.............and Im drunk! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Was this guy your instructor??? He has been strategically placed to help save our tags. Good thinkin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Here's a northeastern whitetail (Odocoileus virginianus borealus) that I shot in Michigan in the late 1990s. Its mount is hanging in my cabin in Greer, so I guess you might say that the Texas whitetails that Ernesto posted are not the only "eastern" whitetails that can be found in Arizona. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
