yumabowhunter Report post Posted March 29, 2009 For the last couple of years I have wanted to go with Duawane Adams and take his half day glassing class. Well, yesterday I did it. We signed up a group of 4. It was me, my father, my cousin and a buddy. I was under the impression that it would just be us and Duwane but when we showed up at the Circle K in Oracle we were greeted by Duwane, Dale Martin and Hector ("Chef"). These 3 gentlemen put on a great demonstration and teaching seminar as we glassed the back side of Mt. Lemon for the better part of the morning. All 4 of us in our group have been avid hunters our entire lives and felt pretty confident in our glassing abilities. WE HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH WE WERE MISSING OUT ON! Duwane, Hector and Dale had some great advice, pointers and suggestions that I am sure will pay dividends in the future. To sum it up it was much more than I had anticipated. I am really glad I took the time to do and would recommend to anyone who wants to become a better glasser and find more animals to give Duwane a call and set up a time to do it. You could not ask for better guys to spend a morning glassing with. All 3 of them were gracious, funny and just good guys to be with. They are a testiment to our sport! P.S. Hopefully these new skills will help me on my unit 10 archery bull hunt in Sept. BOOYAH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wbyfireman Report post Posted March 29, 2009 I have always wanted to go to that class... A group of my co-workers (all fireman) are planning on going in the near future. My only problem/issue is going to be my optics. I have a pair of Vortex 15X50's, not Zeiss, Swaro's, or Leicas. My family simply cant afford to spend the money on top optics (wish I could trust me). Will I be handicapped not using the BEST there is?? My binos work pretty darn good but not Swaro good!! I just dont want to be the only person not seeing or glassing like everyone else.. Can you please give some insight. Much appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZMThunter Report post Posted March 29, 2009 I have always wanted to go to that class... A group of my co-workers (all fireman) are planning on going in the near future. My only problem/issue is going to be my optics. I have a pair of Vortex 15X50's, not Zeiss, Swaro's, or Leicas. My family simply cant afford to spend the money on top optics (wish I could trust me). Will I be handicapped not using the BEST there is?? My binos work pretty darn good but not Swaro good!! I just dont want to be the only person not seeing or glassing like everyone else.. Can you please give some insight. Much appreciated After My son, and I drew late mulie Kaibab tags in 2007, I contacted Duwayne to get one of his maps with all of the info. An amazing guy, that Adams... I wound up, for the first time ever, going on a guided hunt. It was, to say the least, an awesome experience. Not just the time hanging in camp with an unbeleivable group, but the amount of knowledge that we gained. It could take a couple of generations of regular Joes out hunting to get that kind of insight. As for the glass... The first thing I did when I returned was start planning a way to purchase a set of those Swaro 15x15's. It can be done with modest means... But it is not easy to be sure. I can tell you that there is truth in the "Buy the best glass you can afford" argument... you will not be dissapointed going with the best gear. That said, I can tell you first hand that Swaro, Leica, and Zeiss is not the only glass you will find on a guides tripod - But there was only one other brand. Those where the Minox 15x56's... And those found a whole lot of deer up there. Check them out if your budget doesn't allow you the big three... If memory serves, they might have stopped making them, but they can still be found. Hope this helped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZMThunter Report post Posted March 29, 2009 For the last couple of years I have wanted to go with Duawane Adams and take his half day glassing class. Well, yesterday I did it. We signed up a group of 4. It was me, my father, my cousin and a buddy. I was under the impression that it would just be us and Duwane but when we showed up at the Circle K in Oracle we were greeted by Duwane, Dale Martin and Hector ("Chef"). These 3 gentlemen put on a great demonstration and teaching seminar as we glassed the back side of Mt. Lemon for the better part of the morning. All 4 of us in our group have been avid hunters our entire lives and felt pretty confident in our glassing abilities. WE HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH WE WERE MISSING OUT ON! Duwane, Hector and Dale had some great advice, pointers and suggestions that I am sure will pay dividends in the future. To sum it up it was much more than I had anticipated. I am really glad I took the time to do and would recommend to anyone who wants to become a better glasser and find more animals to give Duwane a call and set up a time to do it. You could not ask for better guys to spend a morning glassing with. All 3 of them were gracious, funny and just good guys to be with. They are a testiment to our sport! P.S. Hopefully these new skills will help me on my unit 10 archery bull hunt in Sept. BOOYAH! Yeah, glassing with those guys is humbling. The nice thing about it is after you learn some of their techniques, the soles of my shoes seem to wear slower than the seat of my camo pants. And I see a lot more game... a LOT more! It may be two miles away, and I may not get a succesful stalk - but there is something to be said for hunting an animal that you know is there versus waiting for a little luck to shine oin you while still hunting through the forest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted March 29, 2009 Until you glass with Duwane, you dont know what your "real skill level" is. I am glad you spent the time, it will pay off...........As for the type of glass, go with what you have and see how you perform. Minox makes a good pair, Fujinon makes decent glass, it isnt just the glass, its how you understand where to look and how to look. You will eventually upgrade to Zeiss, Swarovski, Leica at some point, but you dont have to start with it. Learning how to glass/where to glass first is the key. Then the premium glass will enhance your learned ability. It took me a few years to afford all the glass, but now i wouldnt trade them for anything. If you cant find the deer, you wont kill it. I would downgrade my guns to upgrade my bino's..............Allen Taylor.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted March 29, 2009 Yumabowhunter welcome to the greatest hunting site and yes you are correct, Duwane is the best! I'm from Yuma too, there are about 2 or 3 members more here from Yuma. Thank you and good luck on your archery bull Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewp45 Report post Posted March 29, 2009 You lucky dog! That class will help you a lot I am glad you took it. We need to start shooting the bows right now. I will give you a call so I can go whip up on you again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted March 29, 2009 It was nice meeting you guys as well. Small world too isn't it?! Congrats and good luck again on your great elk tag!!! I'm glad you guys enjoyed Duwane's glassing class. You can easily tell how passionate he is about hunting big bucks. I'm sure you grasped his points on where and when to look and why. He sort of puts it in Layman's terms and it goes a long way. I'm still learning every time I'm with him. wbyfireman, as Allen said, glass with what you have. I've heard great things about Vortex binos and have yet to do a side by side comparison. In time you can upgrade to better glass if you wish, but there are some people I know, that are phenomenal glassers with non-top-end binos. Taking the class will go a long way in your success and enjoyment of your hunts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grizzly Report post Posted March 29, 2009 How much does the class cost and is there any hiking involved? Im layed up right now but would love to try something like this to get ready for the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daryl_s Report post Posted March 30, 2009 Top notch optics make a difference but whatever you have, you need to know how to use them. Isn't it Gino who says that his friends can find more stuff with Tascos than a lot of guys with their Swaros?? Judging by the pictures he posts I believe him. I glass side by side with my dad a lot. He has 15x56 Swarovski and I use Nikon Monarch 12x42. The Swaros are clearly better but the Nikons are still a very good glass. The clearness out to the edges isn't that great in the nikons. I plan on buying Swarovskis but for now my Nikons will do. My dad and I have been talking about taking Duwanes class, we could definitely use it. I say use your Vortex optics and take the class and upgrade when you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted March 30, 2009 Grizzly, There is no hiking involved. Don't be fooled though, you will see plenty of deer. Yumabowhunter can attest to that. I think pricing is on Duwane's site under the "videos" page. Don't be hesitant to give him a call with questions about the classes. He can accommodate your needs and make you comfortable I'm certain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZbowhntr Report post Posted March 30, 2009 I took Duwanes class last year with Chef and we learned a lot. I don't have the top end glass but do have decent glass (Minox 12X50). Taking his class is not so much showing off what you have but learning how to use what you do have. I had known for years the glass techniques but until his class I didn't know where to look and when. I went on an elk hunt this last year with a buddy of mine just a few months after the class and out of all the elk we glassed all week my buddy only glassed one cow. And I owe most of my glassing success to Duwane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZP&Y Report post Posted March 30, 2009 I took Duwane's class 3 years ago- and never looked back! I spot more critters than I ever believed was possible : Bears- Mtn Lions and of course BIG Coues BuckS! His passion and experience runs deep. It's worth the price of admission. Bring the best glass you have, but Swaro's are not mandatory! AzP&Y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennyazman Report post Posted March 31, 2009 I just checked the site and he charges 250.00 per person for half a day of lessons. Or you can purchase the video for like 20 bucks. I think I will try the video to see how good it is. I have his video on "How to Hunt Monster Mule Deer on the Kaibab" and I really liked it. This is a new way of hunting for me and so far it has really payed off for me as far as the numbers of animals I see. I would love to take lessons on improving it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites