More auto related questions

[HyNoon]

  On 4/23/2025 at 12:51 AM, ctafoya said:

I've heard of the alcohol trick before. Not balsy enough to try it 

I've done the alcohol trick many times. 

[chuckster]

How much alcohol do you add to the fuel?

[HyNoon]

  On 4/24/2025 at 7:31 PM, chuckster said:

How much alcohol do you add to the fuel?

You can check the internet but I think it's about 1 to 5 ratio per gallon. Then you fuel up as soon as you are done running it thru the sniffer. So you want to have a low tank. That way you don't have to put a bunch in and you can dilute it afterwards. 

[HyNoon]

  On 4/23/2025 at 12:28 PM, mbiewer said:

The copper plate is dependent on your insurance...

We bought the stepson an 88 bronco and put the copper plate on it... Came  from outta county, so when i registered it to gilbert, it should have had emissions. 3 years in, i got the notice that tags were due. Waited my turn in line at dmv to ask. #1 it had a copper plate, #2 if emissions were due it should have been A- coming into county and B- more than the 3 years we had it. The guy was like "Uh, i dunno, but you need emssions... its based off your insurance"

I won an 83 Ford f350 in vegas... 3 trips prior to getting it home to the dmv. Each person gave a different answer to my question (how do i get temporary plating; each person asked for different information).  Ran outta time, opted to chance it...but got insurance set up through hagerty. went back to dmv after i had the truck in hand and they didnt ask for anyhing. Classic insurance is the key, but my agent said theres no way they would give me classic insurance with him as a primary (for either). Then it was simply 1 year or 5 year tags.

Also this...  insurance is key. It can be insurance as classic/ collecter car insurance which will waive the emissions once the insurance provides the mvd with the information that you have that coverage. Their are alot of  "restrictions " that the insurance company tells you that you have to follow or abide by, age might be one of them. Mileage limitations, garage kept, and usually have to provide photos of the vehicle. I also had them ask for a picture of my garage once as proof from one company.

Copper historic vehicle plate will not qualify you to be emissions exempt. 

[eddielasvegas]

  On 4/25/2025 at 1:37 AM, HyNoon said:

Also this...  insurance is key. It can be insurance as classic/ collecter car insurance which will waive the emissions once the insurance provides the mvd with the information that you have that coverage. Their are alot of  "restrictions " that the insurance company tells you that you have to follow or abide by, age might be one of them. Mileage limitations, garage kept, and usually have to provide photos of the vehicle. I also had them ask for a picture of my garage once as proof from one company.

Copper historic vehicle plate will not qualify you to be emissions exempt. 

Pretty sure nothing waives the emission test if you are in Phoenix Metro area.

 

Eddie

[Lucafu1]

  On 4/25/2025 at 2:34 AM, eddielasvegas said:

Pretty sure nothing waives the emission test if you are in Phoenix Metro area.

 

Eddie

Collector car insurance does. But like previously mentioned, there are a bunch of stipulations. 

[eddielasvegas]

  On 4/25/2025 at 3:37 AM, Lucafu1 said:

Collector car insurance does. But like previously mentioned, there are a bunch of stipulations. 

So you're saying an insurance company can tell the state that the car they are insuring does not need an emission test?

If so, I need to look into this as my '92 Miata, insured through ACI, requires an emission test just like all cars.  Well, except new (< 5 years old?) cars are exempt.

 

Eddie

[Lucafu1]

  On 4/25/2025 at 5:23 AM, eddielasvegas said:

So you're saying an insurance company can tell the state that the car they are insuring does not need an emission test?

If so, I need to look into this as my '92 Miata, insured through ACI, requires an emission test just like all cars.  Well, except new (< 5 years old?) cars are exempt.

 

Eddie

Here is an article from 2007. This refreshed my memory because I remember when it came out. I was still very much into Mustangs at the time. 

https://tucson.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/got-collector-car-insurance-smog-test-no-longer-needed/article_b1903320-9fcd-5e1b-b56f-ccaafa538bf6.html

 

[HyNoon]

  On 4/25/2025 at 2:34 AM, eddielasvegas said:

Pretty sure nothing waives the emission test if you are in Phoenix Metro area.

 

Eddie

Yes it does.. I've done it for 4 of mine. 

[HyNoon]

  On 4/25/2025 at 5:23 AM, eddielasvegas said:

So you're saying an insurance company can tell the state that the car they are insuring does not need an emission test?

If so, I need to look into this as my '92 Miata, insured through ACI, requires an emission test just like all cars.  Well, except new (< 5 years old?) cars are exempt.

 

Eddie

Meant to quote this one. Yes it can.  Again Cooper plate has nothing to do with it. It's ess5 a vanity plate if your vehicle is old enough.  The insured provides the waiver to the mvd and you don't have to get emissions. 

[eddielasvegas]

Thanks @Lucafu1  and @HyNoon . 

Based on the link, my '92 just may qualify so I need to look into this for it.

Thanks again.

 

Eddie

[catclaw]

If you add moth balls, make sure it's Naphthalene and not 1,4 dichlorobenzine. 

The paradichlorobenzine with create hydrochloric acid. 

You might just buy some toluene at the paint store and add this instead. 

I know some guys add acetone to clean CATS up.  They still a special additive to do this. 

The classic insurance is a big risk because of you are in violation and have a claim they will deny it. 

[HyNoon]

  On 4/25/2025 at 5:18 PM, catclaw said:

If you add moth balls, make sure it's Naphthalene and not 1,4 dichlorobenzine. 

The paradichlorobenzine with create hydrochloric acid. 

You might just buy some toluene at the paint store and add this instead. 

I know some guys add acetone to clean CATS up.  They still a special additive to do this. 

The classic insurance is a big risk because of you are in violation and have a claim they will deny it. 

You are correct ... it can be risky if not used for intended use. I rarely drive mine on the weekends and one even has the motor out of it now but I keep the coverage for weather damages or theft attempts and what not.

[ctracingraptor]

Add one full bottle of rubbing alcohol and run it through the rollers 

[mbiewer]

  On 4/25/2025 at 1:37 AM, HyNoon said:

Also this...  insurance is key. It can be insurance as classic/ collecter car insurance which will waive the emissions once the insurance provides the mvd with the information that you have that coverage. Their are alot of  "restrictions " that the insurance company tells you that you have to follow or abide by, age might be one of them. Mileage limitations, garage kept, and usually have to provide photos of the vehicle. I also had them ask for a picture of my garage once as proof from one company.

Copper historic vehicle plate will not qualify you to be emissions exempt. 

Ive had mine for coming up on 3 years... no emissions. 

 

When i finally had all the paperwork in hand and went to the dmv (with proof of classic ins) i "needled" the guy.  I said, "ok, you as my representative to all things dmv related for this truck... what are the limitations of use for driving with a historic plate and  collectors insurance?" he said, "oh we got nothing to do with any of that, that's on your insurance company."

My ins broker set it up through Hagerty, and they never asked me about existing mileage or anything of the sort.  i do not have a "garage kept" clause or anything like that.  Its a lifted dually that wont fit in my garage, so thats good news for me. ha ha

I got it towed once, and they never asked any information for any of that. 

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My brother's best friend in tucson has a square body, and pretty much the same thing. No garage on the house... and he said its "supposed to be" limited use, but they never asked him either.

I know there is a different plate/category that is something like "parade use" for classic cars... and that has heavy restrictions on mileage