EarlyBronco Report post Posted April 13 Does anybody know who to contact to get trash cans put back at the spill way? They removed the trash cans last year and people just bag their trash up now and leave it all down the bank, or burn it and leave it all over the place, the river and the banks are filthy, just wondering who would be the contact for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted April 13 That’s the value we get for buying our Tonto passes… 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted April 13 You have to love the forest service! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted April 13 They’ve probably all been laid off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted April 13 23 minutes ago, 654321 said: They’ve probably all been laid off Don’t they hire a third party to do all that work anyway? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted April 13 15 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: Don’t they hire a third party to do all that work anyway? Maybe to haul it off. I remember when they started charging to park at Canyon under the guise that employees were not paid very much and the charge was to be applied for increased wages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted April 13 16 minutes ago, PRDATR said: Maybe to haul it off. I remember when they started charging to park at Canyon under the guise that employees were not paid very much and the charge was to be applied for increased they had a third party for maintaining the restrooms and trash at saguaro when I used to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: they had a third party for maintaining the restrooms and trash at saguaro when I used to go. Third Party is the way to go. Put it out to bid on a five year contract. Have a small staff to manage it as part of their regular roles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, PRDATR said: Third Party is the way to go. Put it out to bid on a five year contract. Have a small staff to manage it as part of their regular roles. Yeah, the third party should just be the forest service and cut out the middle Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EarlyBronco Report post Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: Yeah, the third party should just be the forest service and cut out the middle Man Agreed , they are completely worthless 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: Yeah, the third party should just be the forest service and cut out the middle Man FS employees get bennies and pensions. No need for that with 3rd party. Write a contract with T&C's that is just a couple of pages and not 15 or 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, PRDATR said: FS employees get bennies and pensions. No need for that with 3rd party. Write a contract with T&C's that is just a couple of pages and not 15 or 30. Tell them, not me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted April 14 They'll probably tell you that you don't need a tonto pass there like Indian point so they don't have to maintain it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky Island junkie Report post Posted April 14 Stayed at Windy Hill 3 nights last week and I’m assuming maintenance is done in house. Saw 4-5 green people huddled under one of the ramadas one afternoon BSing. Campgrounds were well taken care of but yeah they probably don’t venture far from the shade this time of year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted April 14 They want you to have a Tonto Pass but there are no trash bins or toilets at Bermuda Flat. No fish cleaning stations open that I've seen in years at Cholla or other main rec sites (please correct me if I'm wrong). I saw a lot of people not purchasing passes because of the circumstances. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites