Daberry95 Report post Posted Tuesday at 05:54 PM Got lucky and drew 5a late rifle! Super excited for it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper17 Report post Posted Tuesday at 07:32 PM 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted Tuesday at 08:33 PM I talked to a couple of outfitters. They were both telling all their clients with bonus points to turn their tags in. Guess the antler outlook is bleak 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adicted Report post Posted Tuesday at 09:05 PM 30 minutes ago, catclaw said: I talked to a couple of outfitters. They were both telling all their clients with bonus points to turn their tags in. Guess the antler outlook is bleak A 350 bull to them is small. A 350 bull to me is a trophy. A 330 bull to me is amazing. So yes. Guides stay home. Leave my small Bulls alone 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maximus Report post Posted Tuesday at 10:19 PM On 2/24/2025 at 11:46 AM, 654321 said: By the numbers: 24,584: The total number of hunt permit-tags issued. 245,736: The total number of those who applied for hunts or bonus points. 203,660: The total number of applications submitted. Tags are going to get harder and harder to draw about just under 10% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daberry95 Report post Posted Tuesday at 11:41 PM 3 hours ago, catclaw said: I talked to a couple of outfitters. They were both telling all their clients with bonus points to turn their tags in. Guess the antler outlook is bleak I’ve heard this before but how much does it actually hurt their potential of what they’ll grow? I know it probably depends on a lot of factors but are you talking 10-20” or more on bad years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
452b264 Report post Posted Tuesday at 11:56 PM On 2/24/2025 at 11:51 AM, azdan said: Late rifle Bull in 1, 2B and 2C. How many points did you have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted Tuesday at 11:57 PM 15 minutes ago, Daberry95 said: I’ve heard this before but how much does it actually hurt their potential of what they’ll grow? I know it probably depends on a lot of factors but are you talking 10-20” or more on bad years? It's probably proportional. A 375 bull will only be 340 etc 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted Wednesday at 12:02 AM Yah post your coords! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted Wednesday at 01:10 AM 14 hours ago, Daberry95 said: I’ve heard this before but how much does it actually hurt their potential of what they’ll grow? I know it probably depends on a lot of factors but are you talking 10-20” or more on bad years? It depends on when the lack of moisture is prevalent during their growing cycle. It's my understanding that dry winters have an adverse effect on top antler growth. In other words, their 4th/5th/6th points lack any length/mass. On the other hand, if it's dry during spring/early summer, their fronts (brow tines & 3rds) are weak. A dry winter/spring/summer scenario can negatively impact antler growth quite heavily. This can easily result in a 20" to 40" deficit compared to antler growth in wetter years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daberry95 Report post Posted Wednesday at 01:57 AM 13 hours ago, Chef said: It depends on when the lack of moisture is prevalent during their growing cycle. It's my understanding that dry winters have an adverse effect on top antler growth. In other words, their 4th/5th/6th points lack any length/mass. On the other hand, if it's dry during spring/early summer, their fronts (brow tines & 3rds) are weak. A dry winter/spring/summer scenario can negatively impact antler growth quite heavily. This can easily result in a 20" to 40" deficit compared to antler growth in wetter years. Wow, 20-40” would be pretty significant.. Although if I seen a 320 bull that could’ve been 350 I’d still be smiling from ear to ear 😂 thanks for the reply and good luck this year! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Wednesday at 02:07 AM Can’t wait to see the posts on Facebook “he woulda been 350+ on a wet year” 4 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yotebuster Report post Posted Wednesday at 02:10 AM 2 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: Can’t wait to see the posts on Facebook “he woulda been 350+ on a wet year” I shot a 4x5 raghorn once that woulda been a 375 on a wet year. The wet year would need to be about 6-7 years later as well. 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nateNAU Report post Posted Wednesday at 02:19 AM 5 hours ago, catclaw said: I talked to a couple of outfitters. They were both telling all their clients with bonus points to turn their tags in. Guess the antler outlook is bleak They are still packing last year's head gear. How the heck can anyone predict what next year will bring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted Wednesday at 02:34 AM 13 minutes ago, nateNAU said: They are still packing last year's head gear. How the heck can anyone predict what next year will bring. I saw some yesterday that sprouted new growth. With this very mild winter, I still think we could have some perfectly timed rains. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
