I gotta Know..... ATV Use....

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

I spent hours walking around the criss-cross quad tracks in one of my for sure horn spots.... yesterday was the first time I have EVER been skunked in there. One of the lazy dirt bags was out there while I was and I praying that he would ride up on me!! To me guys that tride there ATVs cross country to hunt horns (today with all the talk and "don't tread on me info") are just like people that buy beer and soda pop with food stamps!!!

 

 

Now, I won't lie... I have chosen to be lazy before.... I blame my past laziness on how I was not brought up as a trophy hunter, I was raised as a meat hunter, and you just didn't shoot meat that you could get the truck too... and that I was not educated about stewardship of the forests... ...but that did not stop me from getting educated on the issues at hand and becoming a better person/outdoorsman. I love having the ablity to use crosscountry travel to speed the extraction of meat from the field or even to cut firewood (IF done responsibly)... but all that is on the verge of going away because of the lazy B*st**ds that won't get off their ATV's.... I found a white horn yesterday not 250 yards form my Ranger that was parked on a road! ... and yet every inch of flat EASY walking or hilly country out ther has fresh ATV tracks on it???? I am sorry but those that are doing it are PATHETIC!!!!!!! Also a personal obsevation..... I most of the tracks apear to be stock Polaris tires.... .... also the Silverish/goldish colored GMC w/ the red quad (Polaris, I think) that was parked closer to the Hwy than my truck was.... .... I crossed your tracks several times.... I hope I catch you driving cross counrty ...

 

While I am at it how bout the guys that know there was a "hidden water hole" off of the roads and have to make a road to it???? Sure would be nice if every water source out there did not have a road to it you Lazy Dirt Bags!!!

 

Okay... I feel better now.... sorta.

[Tines]

I agree, they're slugs, no doubt!

 

I do have a question though. A while back I thought I saw somewhere that they were going to ban all vehicles going off-road- even if you're retreiving downed game. Was this directive ever passed? Lance and I were talking about this and can't find anything anywhere.....

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

 

 

I think it is coming.... which is a real shame.... but since folks can't be responsible they are gonna take that as well as shut down all un-numbered roads.... We are victim's of our own stupidity....

[AZantlerhead]

Glad some are on the same page C & S !! I checked out a new area I've not yet shed hunted yesterday, and what I thought would be

300+ acres of prime shedin country for backyard bulls. Boy was I wrong. It was like the frigin baja 1000 training grounds!! I'm guessing this happened long ago, and has never stopped, but I just never knew. For those of you near Show Low, I'm talking about the Patch of national forest off the rim road to the east on the west side of town, just this side of the res.. It looked great on Google, A disaster in person. I'm glad I usually go where quads can't.

I'll quote the well respecetd Bill Bishop " I wish they never invented those things". Sad but true .

[jim]

Try the round valley area were so many have the keys to the areas that are gated. I was in a closed gated road area the other day and found quad tracks going thru the gate and pounding the benchs that you can only walk to without the key.

[AZantlerhead]

Try the round valley area were so many have the keys to the areas that are gated. I was in a closed gated road area the other day and found quad tracks going thru the gate and pounding the benchs that you can only walk to without the key.

 

I have a little honey hole like that out of RV and yeah, the sign says " closed to all motor vehicle traffic for wildlife and habitat recovery

" yet there were still quad tracks everywhere, on the benches as you stated. could be the same area? Needless to say I brought out 5 sheds one day and 3 the second, on those benches, with quad tracks 20yds away from a couple . There goin to fast I guess?

[SilentButDeadly]

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/i1oXo...feat=directlink

 

Took this two years ago in 6a during muzzleloader elk.

 

We'd walked up the mountain, then we heard this a-hole role up. He got off next to, then climbed up a juniper tree, hung off the side with one hand, holding his binos to his eyes with the other, looked around, climbed down, radioed his buddy that there were no elk, got back on the quad (at which point I'd picked up my jaw from the ground and got the camera out to start filming), and rode down the mountain...

 

Good thing he hadn't spotted any of the several hundred elk we'd already seen that morning. Idiot.

 

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[Kilimanjaro]

don't own one..... so none of the above.

[azhunter85]

i agree to this all i was going to ask the same questions. i was in 6a today looking for some new horn country and if you read this and you were the one out there we saw you. watched a green ranger cutting cross country in the lower parts of the cedars, the falt easy walking. we were trailing some bulls we watched yesterday until we saw these guys doing it the lazy way. i hate to say it but i wished they outlawed atvs and stuff during certain times so the people that work and do their homework and are walking dont get beat by the lazy people.

[SHOOTER]

I don't own one and never will. The people running around Round Valley are really bad about this and the woods are covered in people right now they are everywhere! most of them making a mess on their ATV's. If I go somewhere I fire up the good ol' hiking boots .

[Tines]

Let's be honest, it's a small world in the hunting community. I live in SoAz so I don't see this NEAR as much as you NoAz's do. But in places like RV, where everyone knows everyone, I'd like to encourage those who may know people doing this to please nock it off! We WILL lose priveleges if this continues. I don't care for confrontation much but if someone interferes directly (or indirectly) with something I love to do, we'll have words. I'd like to think I'm a pretty ethical sportsman but we ALL need to check ourselves everynow and then and not fall into bad habits.....Cause before you know it, "just this one time" will come up again and it get's easier to justify the 2nd or 3rd time

[aztrophytakers]

I like to practice this rule- Any quads/trucks that are blantantly driven off road are entitled to a free "tune up". I can only vouch for one actual instance of this , but lets just say the two boys who had driven 3+ miles further than they where supposed were very surprised after they returned to their bikes thinking they had a nice leasure ride out of the wilderness area. I promise they learned a lesson. If you can't educate them hit em where it hurts-in the wallet

[jackshoe]

I completely agree that all atv's need to be used responsibly and people who do otherwise threaten the privilage of all responsible users. That being said, there is no justification to destroy someone's personal property because they do something you don't agree with. This is the same metality as some one who keys a car in a parking lot or paints grafitti on some ones house in the dark of night. Don't lower yourself to the same level as others who have no respect for laws or property.

[aztrophytakers]

I completely agree that all atv's need to be used responsibly and people who do otherwise threaten the privilage of all responsible users. That being said, there is no justification to destroy someone's personal property because they do something you don't agree with. This is the same metality as some one who keys a car in a parking lot or paints grafitti on some ones house in the dark of night. Don't lower yourself to the same level as others who have no respect for laws or property.

Jackshoe-

 

I disagree. Have you ever scouted till your brain bled only to have some lazy, ignorant excuse for a hunter drive his ATV over the road closed sign and luck his fat butt into the honeyhole you have been watching all summer?Makes me want to puke. Maybe I take my hunting a little to seriously, I don't think I'm alone. It's this passive "don't stoop to their level" mentality is the whole reason why these disrespectful a-holes get so friggin brave. I say if no one else enforces it why not us? If you got got no respect for the law, the hunt or your fellow sportsmen than you can pay the price.

[jackshoe]

I didn't say take no action. I agree with the last sentence in your reply-If you have no respect for laws or property you pay the price. If you are justified to wreck the guys property because he broke the law, is he justified to hit you over the head with a rock when he finds you destroying his property-because you are breaking the law? If the guy was setting on the atv would you go up and start destroying the vehicle? Get law enforcement to enforce the law-take a picture, write down a license plate, get a vehicle i.d. number and get law enforcement involved. I don't own an atv but I don't think that it's my duty or right or whatever to destroy anyones personal property because they break the law with it. Do you think that the people that owned those atv's won't do the same thing again because of your act of vandilism? I doubt it.