HuntHarder Report post Posted 18 hours ago Small sample size, but the results of this poll fall more in line with what I was thinking. There are not droves of dinks getting shot over water. No doubt it happens, but not really an issue. The real issue was not actually knowing how many deer were being killed OTC for so long. Hopefully we can reverse the trend of declining #'s, but I do not think it will be easy or quick. AZGFD dropped the ball big time by not requiring reporting. Now we only require it on some hunts or animals. Seems dumb and should be required for all Big game, with penalties if you fail to. I would love to see a way to have a physical check station or a requirement to send in a picture with tag punched on said animal. Stiff penalties if you get caught trying to photoshop or lie. Anyone that has ever sat water knows that despite what MC68 says, it is not a slam dunk. Animals go nocturnal or have multiple water sources they utilize. Trail cam ban made sitting water less effective in my opinion. You used to be able to set cameras up on the sources you knew about and narrow it down to which one was more probable. Now, you gotta sit and hope you picked right. I know guys who have tried to kill certain bucks on water and days upon weeks of sitting netted 0 results. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northAZarcher Report post Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, oz31p said: Any talk about success rates with out mandatory havest reporting is worthless Even if every unit was 100% successful, there shouldn't be any issues. That was what was determined as a sufficient amount to be removed without causing problems with the rest of the unit population. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted 16 hours ago You would think, but whats the riffle kill ratio's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc68 Report post Posted 15 hours ago @HuntHarder when did I say it was a slam dunk? Do you hunt the deserts of AZ at all? Water is not available everywhere as you imply. It’s actually very limited in most areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, mc68 said: @HuntHarder when did I say it was a slam dunk? Do you hunt the deserts of AZ at all? Water is not available everywhere as you imply. It’s actually very limited in most areas. Nice job editing your previous post... Your exact words were "slam dunk." Nope, never hunted the Az deserts. Explain them to me please. Where did I say water was everywhere? There are indeed, "multiple water sources" in our Az deserts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc68 Report post Posted 14 hours ago Lmao, I don’t even know how to edit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneakem33 Report post Posted 2 hours ago On 1/28/2025 at 10:36 AM, sneakem33 said: But don't kid yourself, hunting water is a slam dunk given the right conditions... I was the one that said slam dunk, with the caveat "in the right conditions". There's nothing that you're going to say that will change my mind. It's legal, it's a great way to kill a deer in a drought year. I hunted sixteen days during the OTC, I sat water 3 of those days. I did not kill a buck, but I was looking for a particular deer, which 90% of the hunters out there do not do. My worst day I had 46 deer (Yes I count them and keep a log) come to water, even with crap wind those deer would circle that tank trying to water, even though they could obviously smell me. I could have shot a number of solid coues bucks during those days and gobs of smaller bucks. Every one of these tanks I hunted I could drive a vehicle right next to without 4WD, probably even a car... If people weren't into just killing any deer 1 & 27 wouldn't hit the quota in 3.5 seconds... I know for a fact that one of these tanks had a buck killed off it every day for at least a week.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
