idgaf Report post Posted Monday at 12:41 AM Keep the quotas and otc. Add antler restrictions. Way to many bucks don't have a chance to grow up. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted Monday at 12:45 AM I think the Quotas are working. Imagine how many mule deer were getting killed before the quotas. 🤯 At least now they can close the unit when harvest objectives are met. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 01:12 AM 32 minutes ago, idgaf said: Keep the quotas and otc. Add antler restrictions. Way to many bucks don't have a chance to grow up. I agree brother but antler restrictions IMO would be disastrous. People will still shoot dinks, bury them after going oops and keep hunting. Very few instances of antler restrictions have solved a problem. Ever. Unfortunately.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 01:15 AM 30 minutes ago, bonecollector said: I think the Quotas are working. Imagine how many mule deer were getting killed before the quotas. 🤯 At least now they can close the unit when harvest objectives are met. Seeing how fast some of the units are closing it is amazing and alarming how many bucks are being saved and how much the AZGFD had no clue about. The result will be harder deer tags to draw but better quality.... ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zslayer Report post Posted Monday at 01:30 AM 8 minutes ago, Big or Bust said: Seeing how fast some of the units are closing it is amazing and alarming how many bucks are being saved and how much the AZGFD had no clue about. The result will be harder deer tags to draw but better quality.... ... This exactly! Could you imagine if say unit 1 was open even the entire August season! The quota system definitely not working closing on Wednesdays. For it to remotely work it would have to be a 24hr notice of closure. Even if unit 1 had a quota of 1 and continued to close on Wednesdays it would make zero difference as of now. But like stated above I’ve been thinking about this a lot as I watched units get shut down quickly, could you imagine if there was no quota and still unlimited OTC tags on how many deer would be taken out of some of these units. Truly is alarming! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Monday at 01:35 AM 23 minutes ago, Big or Bust said: I agree brother but antler restrictions IMO would be disastrous. People will still shoot dinks, bury them after going oops and keep hunting. Very few instances of antler restrictions have solved a problem. Ever. Unfortunately.... People do that now and shoot multiple deer so I don’t think that’s a relevant argument 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 01:50 AM 15 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: People do that now and shoot multiple deer so I don’t think that’s a relevant argument Agree, but if it's on the books imagine how bad it'll be.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zslayer Report post Posted Monday at 02:13 AM If you put a point restriction to say must have a fork one one side there is still gonna be a ton of forks shot especially when those small forks are typically still with the does year around and wasn’t be found. If you made it 3x or better you could have some giant bad genetic forks running around breeding does every year which I’ve seen some giant mature forks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Monday at 02:20 AM 29 minutes ago, Big or Bust said: Agree, but if it's on the books imagine how bad it'll be.... They can kill as many as they want and not put them on the books now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 02:26 AM 7 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: They can kill as many as they want and not put them on the books now Still too many honest guys... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Monday at 02:29 AM 7 minutes ago, Big or Bust said: Still too many honest guys... I don’t see how this strengthens your argument that the same honest guys would be burying the heads of spike and forks. I’m checking out of this, you’re not making any sense… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 02:34 AM Ok. Lol. I'm not trying to strengthen an argument. I'm opining like the rest of us are regarding a big giant issue that ain't going away. You can disagree without leaving. I personally value your thoughts.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted Monday at 02:36 AM Antler restrictions have been tried and dropped. Go to the draw. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Monday at 02:37 AM 5 minutes ago, creed said: Antler restrictions have been tried and dropped. Go to the draw. Has never worked basically anywhere let alone western states... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Monday at 02:46 AM 1.Quotas 2. antler restrictions pick 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
