zslayer Report post Posted Sunday at 02:52 PM As the 3rd year of archery OTC data is coming to a close with the new mandatory reporting and quota system what are some opinions on what will happen? I know the new system was first introduced they mentioned 3 years of data to be collected since they really had no idea how many deer were being killed. The quota system is definitely not working for mule deer as many units are going over quota and some almost double! Do you think no changes? Full draw? Draw only for mule deer and unit specific? I’m very curious to see what the future holds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted Sunday at 03:25 PM I believe itll be full draw soon. Just like javelina. Who’d of thought archery pig would go to a draw ? I know several guys who swing for the fence on their rifle deer apps knowing that they can still deer hunt during archery season as they wait to pull a great tag. Once it happens, they’ll be rethinking it, probably putting in for less desirable hunts to be able to go hunt. Once it happens , it’ll be interesting to see how the dynamics of bonus pts changes. JMO. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zslayer Report post Posted Sunday at 03:44 PM If/when they go to draw do you think they will split into 3 separate seasons? A January, August, and December season? Just like we have now to where we can hunt all three on the same tag but in the future you will have to choose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted Sunday at 04:31 PM We can always fish. Hunting is slowly slipping away. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM Unless we start bickering amongst ourselves in fishing as well……a flies only season , VS. any lures, and the soon to be controversial bait permit for the handicapped and cheaters….. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted Sunday at 08:50 PM 9 minutes ago, NOTAGS said: Unless we start bickering amongst ourselves in fishing as well……a flies only season , VS. any lures, and the soon to be controversial bait permit for the handicapped and cheaters….. Don't forget live scope...aka shining.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Sunday at 08:56 PM Saw an advertisement for underwater trailcams yesterday 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Sunday at 08:58 PM On the topic, Guys killing poverty just to fill a tag. I get flamed for this but like the guy posted on here, their camp killed 2 muley spikes and forky in December. messes everything up. Something has to be done. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakley Report post Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM The future of hunting depends on a more strict management 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Sunday at 09:59 PM I wish they'd stagger archery going to a draw which may even start this year. Nonresidents first then residents as needed to get a few more years out of it but that may to complicated for AZGFD. Also will be curious if they turn the archery seasons into a bunch of 14 day hunts which they could make 4 to 5 of them. Will also be curious when this happens how they deal with the draw cycle and the 1 deer per calendar year. They'll likely just copy NM if they are technically able to, which is a legitimate concern...grin.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dusty Report post Posted Sunday at 10:09 PM 33 minutes ago, Oakley said: The future of hunting depends on a more strict management The future of hunting depends on a more strict $ money $ management . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zslayer Report post Posted Sunday at 10:25 PM 1 hour ago, trphyhntr said: On the topic, Guys killing poverty just to fill a tag. I get flamed for this but like the guy posted on here, their camp killed 2 muley spikes and forky in December. messes everything up. Something has to be done. I agree and the mule deer really pay for it. I’m there there are a lot of people that see their unit closing Wednesday, panic and shoot the next legal buck they see. This whole mandatory harvest report is very interesting though, seeing how fast some units close and just to think in the past it would still be open. Should have been mandatory reporting years ago and rifle should be the same! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big or Bust Report post Posted Sunday at 11:21 PM I personally love the harvest reporting. We get actual data finally... The deer were being annihilated prior to it.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted Sunday at 11:43 PM I imagine NR draw first because the current rush to get the tags is nothing short of dumb. I do not think resident OTC will last 10 years. I agree on harvest reporting. No one had any idea how many deer were getting killed by archery and crossguns. I think it should be mandatory for ALL big game hunts, punishable by not allowing you to enter the draw next cycle if you fail to report. There will be some deceit, but the vast majority of hunters will report honestly imo. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zslayer Report post Posted Sunday at 11:52 PM But even if you went draw for non resident they would have to make it unit specific otherwise we have the same issue as the quota system. Also if residents get OTC and non residents draw I still see the same issue with quotas. I still think they are gonna have to eliminate the whole quota period! That’s gonna mean draw, gonna have to separate mule deer and coues just like rife I just wonder how they will structure it? I also fear they will give a ton of tags for coues deer since the harvest rates are so low and it’s gonna create a lot more pressure and attention on coues because their will probably be leftovers to begin with so people will pick them up just so they can go hunting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites