scoutm Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Unfortunately the captured jaguar had to be euthanized. Here a link. I hope it works. http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/282559 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Arizonas Finest Game and Fish,,,, collared the cat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
synper100 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Just wondering, how long was that jaguar caught in the leg snare?? Think we'll ever know???? Think they will release that info?? I smell a rat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yumabowhunter Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Hey, way to go AZ Game and Fish! I have an idea, how about using our sportsman's dollars for something worth while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT. CAT Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Anyone think this will make national news? Last known jaguar in USA dies after capture. VERY VERY SAD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Just wondering if the recap of Macho B was a political move? No more data, No more activists? I just had to go there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Claw Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Sad how it played out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Ok Lightening didn't strike and nobody has knocked on the door. So maybe I still have a chance on drawing an elk tag? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8 White Jr Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Very sad! What a shame! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple Hunter Report post Posted March 4, 2009 We all know there is 2 sides to the AZGFD: (1) Game and Fish Management ; and (2) Bugs and Bunny counting. #1 focuses on managing Game and Fish populations so that the general populace can recreate and harvest animals - it brings in a lot of revenue #2 focuses on keeping left wingers employed and funding overeducated scientists (as opposed to applied scientists) to do their research and to develop habitat conservation plans for non-game animals. This is a huge expense and brings in no revenue. I don't understand why our State Game and Fish has to spend time in the Bugs and Bunny counting aspect of wildlife. This should be left to the US Fish and Wildlife, and let our G&F department focus on managing game animals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted March 4, 2009 We all know there is 2 sides to the AZGFD: (1) Game and Fish Management ; and (2) Bugs and Bunny counting. #1 focuses on managing Game and Fish populations so that the general populace can recreate and harvest animals - it brings in a lot of revenue #2 focuses on keeping left wingers employed and funding overeducated scientists (as opposed to applied scientists) to do their research and to develop habitat conservation plans for non-game animals. This is a huge expense and brings in no revenue. I don't understand why our State Game and Fish has to spend time in the Bugs and Bunny counting aspect of wildlife. This should be left to the US Fish and Wildlife, and let our G&F department focus on managing game animals. Sorry, but we hunters cannot claim to be majority members of the "general populace" any more. Like it or not, the bugs and bunny crowd vastly outnumber us. The agency's non-game branch is funded by its share of the Arizona lottery. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted March 4, 2009 U.S.F.W. have been the biggest detriment to the wolf reintroduction also. More wolves have died after being re-captured, re-collared etc. Same as the MT. Graham red squirrels. If they would just leave them alone it would save us a ton of taxpayer money. "Wild" animals can't handle the stress of constant human involvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Browning'sCustomMeat Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Very sad indeed. Should have let it be. So another can of worms are opened, activists will feast on this. Here we go. But on the other hand......where's the cape? Just kidding! -Jeremy- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quercus Report post Posted March 4, 2009 arizona game and fish made a monumental mistake by sedating and subsequently killing macho b and raping us of one of the most beautiful animals in the world and i hope to heck that some of the liberal organizations hold them accountable for their actions of practicing what i like to refer to as “cowboy management” and in this case “cowboy medicine”. i’m very anxious to hear if any personnel accept personal accountability for their lack of knowledge and lack of training in the administration of the sedatives given to macho b. as with any medication, particularly those of which are dose dependant, over-dosing an animal can lead to acute renal failure which is what macho b was suffering from prior to being euthanized. couple that with macho b not being given a reversal medication, which is dang near a must, along with the horrible affects of capture myopathy. i feel for the individual that actually administered the drug (as he is ultimately responsible for the death) as the poor excuse for a wildlife agency more than likely didn’t provide them with adequate training or continuing education on such a powerful medication, including side-effects, contra-indications, onset, duration, pharmacokinetics, pharmakodynamics, accurate weight estimation and on and on. i’m also curious to hear what data our lack-of-science game department used when it determined that the medication was in fact safe for use on jaguars, because I’d bet my truck that the data simply doesn’t exist and if it did the sample size is too small to utilize. it’s time something is done to the joke arizona game fish for their overall lack of science in 99 percent of what they do to manage our wildlife and to force a change in their antiquated management practices for the 1 percent where they actually do use science. as a consumptive user and a conservative, i’d fully support the legislature suspending all state wildlife management operations of every type until the idiots thoroughly explain the science behind their management and thus modify the manner in which our wildlife is managed. i can only hope media outlets and liberal law firms investigate this and take this case long and far to show how backwards game and fish is in their actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites