LifeFeedsOnLife Report post Posted Monday at 02:28 PM 26 minutes ago, Mattman215 said: Because I cannot stand all the hounds running through the mountains while I am glassing. None of your kind words will sway my mind but if it gets on the ballot I know how I am voting, I also know many other hunters who would vote the same. but your name calling has proven to be very effective……AZ will follow what many other states have already done. Oh I'm sure you see so many hounds while glassing... Sounds like you need to find a more sporting way to hunt than sitting on your butt glassing then sniping unsuspecting animals. It's less effort than training and hiking behind hounds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted Monday at 02:32 PM 33 minutes ago, Mattman215 said: Because I cannot stand all the hounds running through the mountains while I am glassing. 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattman215 Report post Posted Monday at 02:39 PM 11 minutes ago, LifeFeedsOnLife said: Oh I'm sure you see so many hounds while glassing... Sounds like you need to find a more sporting way to hunt than sitting on your butt glassing then sniping unsuspecting animals. It's less effort than training and hiking behind hounds. Omg, you gave your opinion I’m sooo upset….god I’m so upset…..😭 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZbowhntr Report post Posted Monday at 02:40 PM The problem isn't about it being fair chase or not. The problem is that they are taking away one more little bit of our hunting privileges. And then they will go after the next low hanging fruit on the tree. And there will be a few that don't agree with that type of hunting so they will not have a problem with that being banned. And so on until they have all our hunting rights taken away. How fair is it to sit in a tree stand and shoot the first animal that unknowingly walks under you? Or doing a deer push? We are stressing the deer out and they are "scared for their lives". Should we ban them types of hunting also? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsotm Report post Posted Monday at 02:41 PM 1 minute ago, AZbowhntr said: The problem isn't about it being fair chase or not. The problem is that they are taking away one more little bit of our hunting privileges. And then they will go after the next low hanging fruit on the tree. And there will be a few that don't agree with that type of hunting so they will not have a problem with that being banned. And so on until they have all our hunting rights taken away. How fair is it to sit in a tree stand and shoot the first animal that unknowingly walks under you? Or doing a deer push? We are stressing the deer out and they are "scared for their lives". Should we ban them types of hunting also? And there's plenty of people on this site that would happily give up scopes on muzzleloaders and plenty of other hunting restrictions. Hunters are our own worst enemies. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifeFeedsOnLife Report post Posted Monday at 02:48 PM 8 minutes ago, Mattman215 said: Omg, you gave your opinion I’m sooo upset….god I’m so upset…..😭 Difference is that I'm not in support of taking away your ability to hunt that way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattman215 Report post Posted Monday at 02:50 PM 5 minutes ago, LifeFeedsOnLife said: Difference is that I'm not in support of taking away your ability to hunt that way. O thank god, I live for your approval and permission ! Phew ….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky Island junkie Report post Posted Monday at 02:59 PM This whole conversation is crazy to me. I think you guys who are crying “fair chase” think that lions are an endangered species maybe because they haven’t seen one? If this ban goes through we probably won’t have to worry about our hunting rights being taken away. The game we hunt will disappear. This country is full of lions and when they aren’t controlled, the deer, elk, antelope,pigs etc. will be cleaned out! I’ve seen it happen in the area I live and hunt in. When the hounds men started working on them, the whitetail and javelina came back. Night and day! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastvalleyjerry Report post Posted Monday at 03:45 PM 4 hours ago, EarlyBronco said: Nope I love actual hunting very much been doing it for as long as I can remember Quit being so emotional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted Monday at 04:12 PM Anti groups are all about reintroducing predators, banning the take of predators, method of take, etc. Why you ask? Think about it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EarlyBronco Report post Posted Monday at 04:17 PM 29 minutes ago, eastvalleyjerry said: Quit being so emotional lol cuz I love hunting I’m emotional ?yeah ok , just cuz my opinions don’t match yours , you don’t gotta cry about it and try to make a point, I don’t care about any point you try to make and you don’t care about mine, I’m fine with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted Monday at 05:06 PM 2 hours ago, jdown said: I don't want to see it banned - I get it's place in the ecosystem and generations of breeding and dedication but no one can convince me it is fair chase (regardless of the hours on the ranger circling points and then hiking in/keeping up with the pups) and if I had to be totally honest, i'd sway to yes on the wildlife harassment side too. The sad part is any difference of opinion here - you are automatically an idiot.. sounds leftish to me. It's ok to have a discussion and have an opinion. Alright - light me up lifted chevy guys! It’s the fairest chase of all. 95% of the time the critter gets away. And the other 5%, you can make sure it’s a mature animal before you squeeze the trigger. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted Monday at 05:11 PM you soy boys need to watch this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted Monday at 05:13 PM Every thing has its place . Running dogs for lions may not be for some but that doesn't mean it's not necessary. A lion will kill once a week to feed. Then there's the kill because they can and it amounts to lots of game animals outa the population. Once a lion is in a area the deer ,elk tend to move . That would be enough for me to have no problem with dogs . Even if a lion is not killed they usually are pushed out of areas where they can have a huge negative impact . Just look at the 6a hunts . There was one lion spotted during the archery hunt and then two more for 3 total . That's 150 less animals a year for feeding plus what they kill for fun . Here's a young elk kill from the archery hunt . It all adds up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted Monday at 05:13 PM …and this… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites