ElkDeer Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Ryan & Amy, What type of round/bullet do you shoot out of your 22-250. I've seriously been thinking hard about getting one. ElkDeer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesKilla Report post Posted March 17, 2009 have any of you used a AR type .223 for deer? I was thinking of trying it. Any input would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouseforLife Report post Posted March 18, 2009 I think a .223 would be getting down to pretty light for couse deer. Especially at the distances you may have to shoot. It is possible and I am not saying it wouldn't. I love my 22 250 I have killed three or four nice Couse with it. I usually shoot 55 grain SP's out of it. I stay away from any ballistic tip unless its bonded like the Scirrocco or Accubond. I just don't like them, but thats my opinion. I usually take both my 270 WSM and 22 250 on trips and depending on where I am hunting I will choose between them. If its windy that day my 270 goes. In my 270 WSM I shoot the Swift Scirroco's for deer and A-frames for Elk. I killed one Couse with the Scirroco's and I was pretty impressed. Not alot of damage like I have seen with normal ballistic tips and the exit was about the size of a nickel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfish Report post Posted April 15, 2009 wow I always thought .243 were the lowest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted April 15, 2009 i used a 223 for my lion, at 391 yards so it would be plenty for coues i imagine. but like they said any center fire is legal. you could use 22 mag if you wanted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted April 15, 2009 You can't use a .22 mag. for deer, only javelina and turkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted April 15, 2009 You can't use a .22 mag. for deer, only javelina and turkey. are you sure on that? it says centerfire, and 22 mag. is a centerfire. so where does it say you can not use it on deer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted April 15, 2009 I am almost positivthat a .22 magnum is a rimfire, but even so it says that the .22 mag. and the 5mm can be used for turkey and javelina, there is no check mark for any other big game animals. Maybe you are thinking of a wildcat cartridge or the 22-250. I don't own one so if someone does could you help us out with this. Take care LegalMethodsofTake.pdf The chart above is outdated and wrong, look in the current regulations for the correct list. Pretty much only shotguns shooting shot and archery equipment may be used for turkey, and no rimfires for big game except javelina. Check regulations to be sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngbuck Report post Posted April 15, 2009 Im sure a 22WMR is a rimfire. I thought rimfires were illegal for turkeys but never looked into fall rules. Maybe i need to get a fall turkery tag for my 17HMR they say 17 magnum rimfires are legal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted April 15, 2009 c'mon guys, don't throw BS out there about the laws. be sure of what you're saying. someone may take it as true and get theirself in trouble. a 22 mag (WMRF= Winchester Magnum Rim Fire) is a rimfire. it is "NOT" a centerfire. up through last year, it is legal for javelina and fall turkey only, as far as big game. spring turkeys have to be shot with shotguns using shot only, now. "NO" rifles or shotguns with slugs are allowed. been that way for awhile. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtime Report post Posted April 16, 2009 Ryann and Amy should not be issued tags. Shootin 600 yards at deer with a 22-250 is just plain STUPID. I don't even believe they could hit a deer under field conditions with the varmit rifle. BAD BAD BAD BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUMB DUMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted April 16, 2009 Ryann and Amy should not be issued tags. Shootin 600 yards at deer with a 22-250 is just plain STUPID. I don't even believe they could hit a deer under field conditions with the varmit rifle. BAD BAD BAD BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUMB DUMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shooting deer with a 22-250 is a short range proposition at best. It will kill them but it takes a much better placed shot than even a 243. A typical 22-250 round at 600 yds has less energy that a 22 RIMFIRE magnum and barely more than most 22 LR loads. Would you feel comfortable shooting deer with a 22 LR??? The bullets wont' expand at these velocities and the BC on a factory 22 cal bullet is so poor that any wind is going to blow the bullet way off course. A lot of us starting out hunting them with 22-250s but eventually realized that it wasn't humane and certainly wasn't optimal. I don't want to see restrictions on caliber, but assinine comments like these will be just what it takes to get to happen. A 22 hornet is legal for elk, does that mean we should try it?? Come on people, use enough gun to be fair to the game. These aren't prairie dogs! I had to go to the Phx office to get a FOPE stamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted April 16, 2009 legal methods of take for turkey Spring Tukey: Shotgun shooting shot, crossbow, or bow and arrow. NO centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns, muzzleloader/blackpowder rifles/handguns, or Rimfire. (See R12-4-318, paragraph 8) Fall Turkey: Shotgun shooting shot, bow and arrow, or crossbow. NO centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns, muzzleloader/blackpowder rifles/handguns, or Rimfire. Centerfire and rimfire were legal in the past for fall turkey, but the killing of a turkey hunter on the North Kaibab may have precipitated their elimination in 2008 http://www.azgfd.net/hunting/hunting/fall-...ges/2008/09/08/ Keith: the table in your link is from the 2007-08 regs, and is different from the 08-09 regs The list of methods allowed for turkey under R12-4-304 may create confusion and illegal take, if one does not see the restrictions in R12-4-318 Perhaps the lists in R12-4-304 need ammending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted April 16, 2009 Doug you are right, page 94 and 95 of the fall deer regulations have the 08 and 09 legal methods of take and there are changes that need to be looked at, I am still looking for the most current regulations. I haven't found a chart I can post yet, but it is a chart in the regulations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted April 16, 2009 Regarding the 22-250 for deer, there are better choices, IMO. ie 243, 257 Roberts, 260 Rem for those wanting light recoil and better deer performance. A 55 grain Ballistic Tip at 3600 fps will have retained 1900 FPS and 450 FtLbs Energy at 600 yards. Enough speed to expand the bullet, but would raise question to penetration if required to go through a shoulder or paunch. I have seen a 55 gr Hollow point blow up and penetrate only 1" into the shoulder muscle of a deer at 100 yards. This goes to proper bullet choice. Most 22 caliber bullets are lightly constructed for varmints. Better bullets like the 60 Nosler Partition will require a faster twist than the common 1-14. I have shot 40 grain HP at 420 yards at soda cans and have found a bullet laying atop the sand bank. The bullet was totally reloadable with no expansion at all. I have seen a coues taken at 400 yards with a 53 gr TSX from a 223 WSSM. Penetration through the chest, no shoulders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
