.270 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 has anyone heard of what i'm gong to write about? and if you have can you expand on the topic? i want to know. a big part of my job is to drive all over this cotton pickin' valley and when i'm driving i listen to the radio a lot. yesterday on one of the conservative talk shows they were talking about one of the things included in the so called stimulus bill (c'mon we all know it has more pork in it than bacon) and they were concerned about one of the paragraphs that was going to include some interstates in the national park system. said the reason for it was because obama was going to strike the law that allowed you to have an unloaded gun in a national park (which bush actually changed to make it legal to have a loaded gun legally and even to carry a concealed gun in national parks that were in states that allowed CCW), therefore making it illegal to carry any firearm on the included highways, because they will be part of the national park system. evenif you're just passing through. i had to get out for awhile before they elaborated on what they were talking about and didn't get to hear the rest of it. but it spooked the heck outta me. i've said from the start that obama is going to let us keep guns, but he's gonna sign any legislation that keeps us from shooting them. this sounds like some sneaky, spooky $h!t to me. but it is exactly what i think we have to expect. i look for them to somehow outlaw ammo components, or ammo in general, but using some hazardous material designation on primers or powder or even lead. i also see some real restrictions on shooting ranges over lead and in plinking in general, over lead. i hate to get apocoliptic about anything. nothing aggravates me more than any kind of radical extremism. and these anti gunners, and liberals in general are extremely radical. the NRA gets a little extreme and radical, but i go along with the NRA in fighting any anti-shooting legislation, because you can't let freedom get eroded. because of the absolute stupidity of anti gun people they have to be in polar oposition. once the erosion starts, you never really stop it. we all need to take a hard look at what this obama guy really has in his heart. it's pretty scary. i mean really scary. not just guns, but everything. he's all for confining everyone he can and limiting freedom as much as he can. the ability to travel will be another thing he tries to limit. nothing makes the American public more free than the internal combustion engine. anyway, if anyone has anymore info on the national park/highway deal, let me know. i've looked, but keep coming to dead ends. and if you know anybody that voted for obama, slug em in the gut and ask em what the heck they were thinkin'. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngbuck Report post Posted February 12, 2009 I was told by a ccw instructor is was illegal to carry in a national park regardless of permit or not. He said he did anyways but didnt suggest it. Ive never looked into it myself though. It is pretty scary all the talk about new legeslation on gun laws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted February 12, 2009 check out this link http://ccw.azdps.gov/news/010909.asp also, if anyone in the Tucson area is considering getting a CCW I can help. We offer quality classes at my work and qualify on a private range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 that is a law that bush enacted shortly before leaving office and is also the one that obama is going to recind soon. it is a continuation of one that Reagan enacted that allowed unloaded firearms in a national park. i believe they had to be kept in your vehicle also. the original intent was so that someone travelling could stop off and see a national park and not worry about being arrested for having a firearm in their car. Bush took it a step further. the new deal they were talking about was recinding these laws and for some reason making interstates, or parts of interstates, part of the national park system. thus making it a crime to have a firearm in your car, if you are on that interstate, or part of that interstate. if i heard it correctly, and i think i did. for instance, if i-10 were part of the national park system, you wouldn't be able to travel to southern Az. from here, with a firearm. as it is now, there are parts on interstates that cross national parks, and if they enact this, if you had a firearm, you would either have to detour around them, or go home. pretty interesting the lengths, that these guys will go to to keep a guy from shooting a gun. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites