Time for a new bow

[BowNut]

Ok guys...Hoyt vs Mathews

 

Which is the better bow?

 

Wow you know how to get things started here!

I shoot for Hoyt so I'm staying out a that.

[Mr. Jonathan]

I guess I'm alone here so far, but Bowtech makes some incredible weapons, plus they are a great company. All of their bows are tribute bows to the American Armed Forces and they donate a portion of their profit each year to the Tragedy Assistance Program (TAPS) that helps families of soldiers killed in action. 1st class company, great warranties, amazing bows. In my opinion, if you're gonna ask the hoyt vs. matthews question, you might as well put bowtech in the line up too.

[coocoo4coues]

I guess I'm alone here so far, but Bowtech makes some incredible weapons, plus they are a great company. All of their bows are tribute bows to the American Armed Forces and they donate a portion of their profit each year to the Tragedy Assistance Program (TAPS) that helps families of soldiers killed in action. 1st class company, great warranties, amazing bows. In my opinion, if you're gonna ask the hoyt vs. matthews question, you might as well put bowtech in the line up too.

 

Wow...I didn't know that. Let's open the discussion up to:

 

PSE / Hoyt / Mathews / Bowtech bows

 

I know there are fans of each of the above mentioned brands, so I'd like to hear all the pros and cons.

 

And yes, I know how to get things started here. I want to hear from the experts out there!

 

[longshooter]

Here is a good review comparing the 2 for you

 

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=828286

[COOSEFAN]

Ok guys...Hoyt vs Mathews

 

Which is the better bow?

 

 

Oh no.......here we go

 

I have shot both and honestly am surprised that some people still like the Hoyt when compared to a Mathews. In shooting and handling both, in several different models, the Mathews has always shot and felt better...TO ME! Thats the thing, it's a personal opinion that you need to decide for yourself. Both bows are the best out there, but each has it's own different feel, just find the one that fits you and is comfortable to shoot.

 

My suggestion is to not get wrapped up in the speed game and don't buy a bow just because somebody tells you it's the best, it is a personal thing IMO. Shoot the DXT before you buy, I've been real impressed with mine! Good luck, JIM>

 

 

[azcouesandelk]

I have shot just about every bow on the market and to tell you honestly, they all shot great. The Hoyt line is a great bow that is smooth and quick but you need to keep the cams timed. The Matthews line is also great because of how smooth and compact they are. The Bowtech line is probably one of the most underrated bows out there because that are less expensive, but they are smooth, quick and light. PSE has the speed thing down for sure and they bows shoot good.

 

Figure out which bows you are the most interested in and go to several shops to try each of them out and decide. No matter what anybody on here tells you it is what feels best when you shoot it.

 

Good Luck and keep us posted on what you end up going with.

[LAR DOG]

 

 

 

GET INK, GET MATHEWS DRENALIN

[BowNut]

I have shot just about every bow on the market and to tell you honestly, they all shot great. The Hoyt line is a great bow that is smooth and quick but you need to keep the cams timed. The Matthews line is also great because of how smooth and compact they are. The Bowtech line is probably one of the most underrated bows out there because that are less expensive, but they are smooth, quick and light. PSE has the speed thing down for sure and they bows shoot good.

 

Figure out which bows you are the most interested in and go to several shops to try each of them out and decide. No matter what anybody on here tells you it is what feels best when you shoot it.

 

Good Luck and keep us posted on what you end up going with.

 

Man I thought you were going to do better then that "but you need to keep the cams timed"! You did not even mention my name in your post! Your slacking bro!

 

A lot of people don't realize that Mathews, Bowtech and I'm sure PSE also need there cams adjusted or timed. Even the single cam bows have timing marks for a set position were they perform the best.

[willhunt4coues]

When it comes down to it they will say CATCH US IF YOU CAN but everyone knows you should REFUSE TO FOLLOW.

 

You asked for it

 

[synper100]

Hey coocoo dude, ask all the PSE shooters how their shoulders feel after a few weeks of shooting!!!! You can't beat a Mathews!!! Butter smooth cams, speed and forgiveness. Shoot the best. Go with the Reezen. I Did.

[jamaro]

You need to figure out what bow shoots well for you.... They are all different... They cycle different, the grips are different, etc.... Spend some time and shoot different bows, when you find a bow that fits you. You will know it. Don't let anybody tell you or try to convince you that one bow is better than the another. With today's technology bows are more consistent that humans are. I have shot a ton of bows and IMO it comes down to personal preference.

 

Fortunately, I can shoot any bow out there and this year I am going to shoot an Elite. Why? Because, I just like the way they shoot. They just feel "right" in my hands...

 

J

[crazy4COUES]

I guess I'm alone here so far, but Bowtech makes some incredible weapons, plus they are a great company. All of their bows are tribute bows to the American Armed Forces and they donate a portion of their profit each year to the Tragedy Assistance Program (TAPS) that helps families of soldiers killed in action. 1st class company, great warranties, amazing bows. In my opinion, if you're gonna ask the hoyt vs. matthews question, you might as well put bowtech in the line up too.

 

Wow...I didn't know that. Let's open the discussion up to:

 

PSE / Hoyt / Mathews / Bowtech bows

 

I know there are fans of each of the above mentioned brands, so I'd like to hear all the pros and cons.

 

And yes, I know how to get things started here. I want to hear from the experts out there!

 

 

Everyone has there own opinion on what makes a bow "the one" for them. So you will get alot of opinions based off of what is best to them. What I have found is that BOWTECH ROCKS! Not to say they are better than the others, just saying I prefere BOWTECH. I would recommend the BOWTECH ALLEGIANCE. It is 34" ATA and shoots 307 fps. @ 28" draw, 70lbs. draw weight with a 356 grain arrow. This thing is the BEST shooting bow I have ever had. I have owned hoyt, mathews both. This one is superior IMO. They can be found all over ebay and archerytalk.com classifieds. The 06 and up models have cam modules that can be changed without a bow press. The 07 and newer have a slimmer grip.

 

Things to look for are brace height, grip, ATA length, draw weight, draw stops and lastly speed. You should try to find a bow with a 7 inch brace height or more. Anything less than 7 and you are getting into a touchy bow for accuracy. Grab the bows grip and pay attention to how it feels. Avoid bows with rubber grips. They tend to cause irregularity in your hand placement. Hoyt has a unique feel to them. The TEC risers feel thinner on the grip and have a more balanced feel to me. The mathews grips are bulky and take a little getting used to. BOWTECH has a feel in between the two. Not as thin as hoyt or bulky as mathews. Axle to axle length needs to be considered. If you are stand hunting, blind hunting, alot of backpacking then you will want to find one around 34" or less ATA. I have used a 41" ATA bow in a blind, it will work, man is it tough to manuver. Some bows have enough energy now days you can get away with a 50-60 lbs. draw and still have the kenetic energy needed to put down big game. However I still go for the 60-70lbs. simply because it is not a problem to draw and shoot. Alot of bows do not have a positive draw stop. (mathews) Thus alows you to under, overdraw your bow at times. You want to have a solid back wall. It will make your shooting more consistant. Just the little bit of creep that allows you to overdraw will result in arrow point of impact to vary 2" or so, not good IMO. Speed isn't a main concern but should be a factor in deciding. The advertised speeds are just that. You will find that for every inch below IBO (30") your draw length is, estimate losing 10 fps. from the advertised speed. It should b fairly easy to find a bow that will shoot 300 fps IBO or so. With that said, GOOD LUCK!

[BigBfever]

there is a member on the site that has a great quote, I think it goes, "I don't want to Hoyt animals thats why i shoot a PSE", I prob. butchered that but you get the point.

 

Personally i wouldn't trade my X force for anything, you can go wrong, PSE makes Browning bow and there design is pretty much the same at a little better price, But when it really comes down to it you gotta get out there and find the one that suits you best, PSE,Matthews,hoyt,bowtech ect. are all great companys that can make a quality bow, just try'em out.

 

I am a firm believer on doing it right the first time( cough cough....... X Force)

 

have fun

 

[SO I HUNT]

Forget what everyone as and will try to sell on which bow to buy! What you need to do spend the time in shooting whats out there and make up your mind than. When you shoot that bow that makes it all come together you'll know it JUST MY .02 CENTS of thought

[Mr. Jonathan]

Ok, so yes yes yes to all who have said it comes down to the bow you like to shoot the most. But just to throw something in the mix on timing issues with cams, look into BowTech's binary cam system where the control cables attach directly to the opposing cam and not the limb. This helps tremendously with timing since the cams stay timed relative to each other. And another thought on the speed issue is this: you need kinetic energy to drive penetration on your shots. The most effective way to get kinetic energy is to shoot a heavier arrow, since from a physics perspective, shooting a heavy arrow slower is better than a lighter arrow faster (for maximizing KE). Now if you get a fast bow, you can increase your arrow weight quite a bit and still pull off a very respectable speed in the high 200's fps or low 300's. My bow shoots 307 fps at 27.5 inch draw and 385 grain arrows. that produces around 80 ft-lbs of kinetic energy. I could even increase my arrow weight and sacrifice some speed to get more KE. So, if you're chasing speed for speed's sake, you might as well stick to tournaments and 3-D, but that extra speed can allow for shooting a heavier arrow and getting better penetration. I'll probably get reamed for this, but those are my thoughts. Also, consider the near-zero nock travel of a dual cam versus a single cam, for all those die hard matthews guys... Really any new bow you get will be an incredible weapon. most anything on the market these days are exceptional, so shoot what you like, and keep us posted!