eddielasvegas Report post Posted February 20 This just might be a first in recorded history. Story HERE. Eddie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goinhuntn Report post Posted February 20 35 minutes ago, TR0UBLE SH00TER said: Cool video! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10Turkeys Report post Posted February 21 Ran into 2 of them. One just outside of Ft. Thomas and one in 36C. The one on the road by Ft. Thomas was very docile. The one in 36C was hissing at us, and it was plain it didn't want to be messed with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
runningbird Report post Posted February 21 I watched one of my hounds get bit on the lower lip. From 75 yards. He had a hold of her lip for about 10 sec. before she got it off. She ran down the mountain , then a sand wash and 2 miles back home. I cleaned it out and gave her some augmentin. She was in a lot of pain for about 4 hours. The next day she was fine. What I understand is that its not so much the venom but that their mouth is filthy. So infection is the main concern. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR0UBLE SH00TER Report post Posted February 21 44 minutes ago, runningbird said: I watched one of my hounds get bit on the lower lip. From 75 yards. He had a hold of her lip for about 10 sec. before she got it off. She ran down the mountain , then a sand wash and 2 miles back home. I cleaned it out and gave her some augmentin. She was in a lot of pain for about 4 hours. The next day she was fine. What I understand is that its not so much the venom but that their mouth is filthy. So infection is the main concern. They're also known for not letting go of the bite. So it sounds like sh was actually lucky. Oddly enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted February 21 The common factor in both the death and the YouTube boob is STUPID. A pet ? Yeah, sure. Anyone who’s supposedly filming dangerous creatures for a living or hobby should know how fast they can move. I’ve run across some that had a plumb bad arse attitude, and were rather aggressive towards me. Neat to see, but like a limp wiener… you don’t F with it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted February 21 Mother in law is or was a nurse in the 80's and a boy had one as a pet, bit him on the neck. Killed him. They get lock jaw and there saliva is deadly. Like a Comono Dragon or close to. I like the way they back under a bush then hiss at you. Thanks for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirogue Report post Posted February 21 Seems like it was that guy’s time to go, if 1st death in 94 years. Never walked up on one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoss50 Report post Posted February 21 I have only seen 1 in the wild probably 20 years ago out off table mesa road in the river bottom. It was pink and black and it was pretty awesome to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IA Born Report post Posted February 21 I was a venom researcher in a former life (genetics and evolution of Mohave rattlesnake venoms). I always try to stay on top of some the current venom research all these years later because it still fascinates me and because I dedicated so much of my life to it. Gila monster venom is far from toxic or lethal to humans, and its a true venom secreted from venom glands. Years of research finally documented that for the Komodo dragons, too. The article made sense to me when they said suspected allergic reaction to the venom. There are so many different proteins in the various venoms that it doesn't take much to trigger that. Anaphylactic shock is not as uncommon as people thing from all of the various venoms (rattlesnakes, spiders, scorpions, and gila monsters). When I was younger, dumber, (supposedly invincible), and in the height of my research, I kept a sidewinder as a pet. That was probably one of the dumbest things I've done in my life and I can promise you there is some serious competition on that list. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted February 21 10 hours ago, IA Born said: I was a venom researcher in a former life (genetics and evolution of Mohave rattlesnake venoms). I always try to stay on top of some the current venom research all these years later because it still fascinates me and because I dedicated so much of my life to it. Gila monster venom is far from toxic or lethal to humans, and its a true venom secreted from venom glands. Years of research finally documented that for the Komodo dragons, too. The article made sense to me when they said suspected allergic reaction to the venom. There are so many different proteins in the various venoms that it doesn't take much to trigger that. Anaphylactic shock is not as uncommon as people thing from all of the various venoms (rattlesnakes, spiders, scorpions, and gila monsters). When I was younger, dumber, (supposedly invincible), and in the height of my research, I kept a sidewinder as a pet. That was probably one of the dumbest things I've done in my life and I can promise you there is some serious competition on that list. You are correct, just confirmed I was a little off. The kid didn't die but had some severe nerve damage. Thank you for the expert info. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10Turkeys Report post Posted February 28 Saw my third while I was in 37B looking for a pig. This one was in a ditch where run off water went into a wash, it had its head moving from side to side, and was flicking it's tongue like a snake. I don't know if it was using it's tongue as a sensor, finding it's way, or if it was snagging bugs that I couldn't see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted February 29 Over the years I've probably found a couple dozen while out roaming. You would have to almost try to have one bite you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted February 29 When I was a kid a drunk field worker in Harquahala Valley died from a bite. He had it in a gunny sack and somehow it got hold of him in the web of his hand and wouldn't let go. That wasn't 94 years ago but it was a long time ago and he is dead from the bite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites