CatfishKev Report post Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: America’s youth is ya’lls kids so… Worked my kids as soon as they were able. My oldest turned 21 today. She's done 14 hour days with me in the past. Became manager while in high school her first job. Second oldest quickly did the same. He now works for me and also part of the future business. Your statement is true though. I always talk about this subject with my customers and I always tell people that kids of business owners seem to have the best work ethics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, trphyhntr said: You live in Sierra vista, you’re probably picking between 3 white dudes to begin with jfc Do you think the ratio would be different where you live? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted December 3, 2023 the only good thing in Sierra Vista is the north bound lanes of hwy 90! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: Do you think the ratio would be different where you live? Probably, I’m in east Mesa. Idk dude I’m sorry I haven’t had the same life experience as you guys have I guess Because know plenty of hardworking white people. Few blacks even, natives. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yotebuster Report post Posted December 3, 2023 There’s a few hardworking whites out there. Let’s just say the ratio isn’t there on whites fellas. I’m in ND, so it’s a different blend here for sure, but all of our crime, all of our welfare cases, are all white dudes. We don’t have many Mexicans up here, but the ones we do all work their rears off, don’t complain, and pay their bills. White guys had their good generations and their over with now in general. This generations Mexican concrete finishers, roofers and landscapers are raising the next generation of contractors, doctors and lawyers. It’s happened with plenty of other ethnic groups in this country, it’s the American way and it’s a dang good one. I love to see hard work pay off for people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted December 3, 2023 I see both sides of the equation. Lets not forget we are all decendants of immigrants and at some point we embraced the entitlement. People feel threatend when they see their everyday life changing. It's not the end of the world and the sky is not falling. I'm 71 years old. Knew a man who fought in the Civil War. Born in NYC and grew up with families that had grand parents that spoke no to little English from Italy, Syria and Puerto Rico. Our neighborhood was a true melting pot. My sisters Father-in-Law was a German who spent time as a POW in Russia. My neighbor escaped Germany as a young kid. His brother died in a German Concentration Camp. Think about carrying that burned into your memory. Yup, the landscape is changing. Just like it has for the past 600 hundred years. The cemetery close to my house on Long Island had about 40 graves. Some were well over 400 hundred years old. Barely legible. Native American land, bought by Quakers and Dutch Settlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted December 3, 2023 The border is as close to being wide open as it possibly can be right now. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, firstcoueswas80 said: The border is as close to being wide open as it possibly can be right now. Saw some good clean footage a fellow CW’er posted yesterday online of some dudes with big packs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 3, 2023 Some of them hard workers, good profits no taxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PRDATR said: I see both sides of the equation. Lets not forget we are all decendants of immigrants and at some point we embraced the entitlement. People feel threatend when they see their everyday life changing. It's not the end of the world and the sky is not falling. I'm 71 years old. Knew a man who fought in the Civil War. Born in NYC and grew up with families that had grand parents that spoke no to little English from Italy, Syria and Puerto Rico. Our neighborhood was a true melting pot. My sisters Father-in-Law was a German who spent time as a POW in Russia. My neighbor escaped Germany as a young kid. His brother died in a German Concentration Camp. Think about carrying that burned into your memory. Yup, the landscape is changing. Just like it has for the past 600 hundred years. The cemetery close to my house on Long Island had about 40 graves. Some were well over 400 hundred years old. Barely legible. Native American land, bought by Quakers and Dutch Settlers. We are all not Descendants of illegal immigrants 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted December 3, 2023 I kinda see it differently. I'm in manufacturing and make parts as a cnc machinist so if it flys,drives,or blows up sh*t on land ,sea,or air I've made something for it. I work 7 days a week 82 plus hours a week every week to provide for my family and to have the things I do just to see my work get sent to Mexico . The guys down there make about 1/3 of what I make in an hour per day . Our government gives tax breaks to the major companies who we support to keep jobs here but it ends up there for no other reason but profit. If it isn't itar and can't be exported ( military) it usually finds its way south . The claim of no work is not true there are many of the major companies that have located to Mexico . You should have seen it when covid hit . They were quick to pull machines outa Mexico as the borders closed. Our own government panicked as they realize we have very little that's actually made here! Auto,medical,and military. There are plenty of hard working people here just most have forgotten how ! Each generation gets less and less educated in schools in basic life skills . There is no wood,metal,auto,or just about any other job skill type classes offered anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Crazymonkey said: I kinda see it differently. I'm in manufacturing and make parts as a cnc machinist so if it flys,drives,or blows up sh*t on land ,sea,or air I've made something for it. I work 7 days a week 82 plus hours a week every week to provide for my family and to have the things I do just to see my work get sent to Mexico . The guys down there make about 1/3 of what I make in an hour per day . Our government gives tax breaks to the major companies who we support to keep jobs here but it ends up there for no other reason but profit. If it isn't itar and can't be exported ( military) it usually finds its way south . The claim of no work is not true there are many of the major companies that have located to Mexico . You should have seen it when covid hit . They were quick to pull machines outa Mexico as the borders closed. Our own government panicked as they realize we have very little that's actually made here! Auto,medical,and military. There are plenty of hard working people here just most have forgotten how ! Each generation gets less and less educated in schools in basic life skills . There is no wood,metal,auto,or just about any other job skill type classes offered anymore. Chris I took "Shop" every year from 7th grade on until I graduated and learned a bunch and made some pretty cool things. Learned how to set type from a California Job Case, how to do sand casting, how to use a sheetmetal brake, how to pour slip into a mold and that was just in Jr High. In HS I took Wood Shop every year. Built book cases, a hydroplane boat, learned hot to bend wrought iron and how to stick weld. Built a 36" chandelier out of wrought iron and wired it. Classes like these should be mandatory. A couple of years ago I go a flat tire on the work van and had to have one of the guys bring me a jack. The bosses son came out with another guy who was 24 and said, "so that's how you change a tire!" Like they say. Experience is what you get after you need it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbuckfever Report post Posted December 4, 2023 I've been a painter for over 40 years in AZ and the labor force has definitely changed in the last 10+ years. The last time I tried to hire painters, I included a $500 bonus to be paid after one month (if they stuck around) and I couldn't find many takers that were qualified. I would get plenty of calls, but no one would actually show up for the in-person interview. (Finally had a woman show up and stick around for the month and then she was out of there once she got the $500.) When employers end up competing against the government that is giving away $ (that they took from the employers in the form of a tax), why would the next generation work for the money when they can get it just for applying with the government? I'm all for legal immigration, but when literally millions pour into the country illegally, heck no! having said that, I have to say that 99% of the people that hold the signs asking for money on the street corners don't appear to be Hispanic. They are coming here because they want to work, n ot because they want a free handout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted December 4, 2023 “They are coming herebecause they want to work, n ot because they want a free handout.“ Seems to me that there’s been at least two articles in the last week about these immigrants being already involved in organized retail theft operations. Better define “ work”….. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted December 4, 2023 There's a whole lot of crazy going on out there and a bunch of it ain't normal!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites