mc68 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Has anyone heard more on the charges AZG&F has filed against A3 for using helicopters on late bull hunts? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maximus Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Helicopters? what this world has come to? where is the hunting ethics and fun with family and friends? that is ridiculous. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues247 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 All I've seen is both owners Chad Rhoton and Jay Lopeman and two of their guides were charged in Payson justice court for flying helicopters during the late elk hunt in 2022. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted November 20, 2023 yet people keep hiring them... all about the gram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northAZarcher Report post Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, maximus said: Helicopters? what this world has come to? where is the hunting ethics and fun with family and friends? that is ridiculous. It's a business that requires production. They already took away the hundreds, if not thousands of cameras being used by many businesses. Which I believe they are still out there at some capacity. Just harder to spot now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Can we start a thread with Arizona guides names and their convicted crimes. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted November 20, 2023 I always refer to Operation Navajo Buck. bunch of names of dudes you’ll recognize got busted for flying when they’re not supposed to. Those guys all got felonies Lacey act I think. Probably same thing for these guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues247 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: I always refer to Operation Navajo Buck. bunch of names of dudes you’ll recognize got busted for flying when they’re not supposed to. Those guys all got felonies Lacey act I think. Probably same thing for these guys I think they got lacey act charges because it involved flying over the rez. Not that I wouldn't expect a3 flying over the apache rez in this situation. Hopefully they nail these guys since they've been doing it for years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Oh gotcha, was wondering about that. Thought it was cuz they were profiting off illegal taking of wildlife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsotm Report post Posted November 21, 2023 They’ll just be guiding illegally like the Wards. Laws and guilty verdicts don’t stop criminals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Coues247 said: I think they got lacey act charges because it involved flying over the rez. Not that I wouldn't expect a3 flying over the apache rez in this situation. Hopefully they nail these guys since they've been doing it for years. https://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/plant_health/fsc-lacey-act.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues247 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, PRDATR said: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/plant_health/fsc-lacey-act.pdf Thanks for the deets on which plants I need be careful about smuggling across the border. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted November 21, 2023 I reported a helicopter in unit 1 three years ago for pushing elk over to 27 the day before early archery started. It' was G&F doing a "survey ". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
northAZarcher Report post Posted November 21, 2023 Had a guy in unit 9 about 6-7 years ago try pushing a herd of antelope over to unit 10 on a paraglider. Little did he know, I already had the buck down! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcshorthairs Report post Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ctafoya said: I reported a helicopter in unit 1 three years ago for pushing elk over to 27 the day before early archery started. It' was G&F doing a "survey ". I was there and saw the same thing. That sure was interesting. Must mean I was near the elk lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
