gonefishn Report post Posted November 14, 2023 My daughter got drawn for a javelina H.A.M. hunt. She has harvested both a javelina and a deer. She said she wanted to try bow. My question is should I get a muzzleloader as backup. The only firearm she has shot is my 243 rifle. I am afraid a muzzleloader recoil may be too much for her. She is 11. She does fine with the 243 and can shoot it all day at the range. Also any suggestions on bow's. I don't want to spend too much as she may not like it. Would shooting a 30-06 be comparable? I know, I know, a lot of factors go into it like how hot the muzzleloader load is and the stock and if it has a muzzle break or not. I mean out of the box muzzle loader and out of the box 30-06. Any help is much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 14, 2023 If she wants to bow hunt let her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustin25 Report post Posted November 14, 2023 I accidentally put my 10 year old in for ham…. I don’t think I could load down the muzzleloader enough for her to shoot. She also can’t draw 35 lbs….. only thing I can think of for her is to stick a red dot on a handgun and then try to get her into like 10 yards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted November 14, 2023 I got a muzzlelaoder recently. The recoil isn't too bad compared to a 243. Especially if you wanna do some lighter loads. Look at getting a cva wolf, black horn 209 powder, Home hornady SST, and some blackhorn 209 primers. And some cleaning kit supplies. That's about all you need 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forepaw Report post Posted November 15, 2023 No debate really for an 11 y.o. Muzzleoader with shooting sticks. Can be loaded to mild recoil. Yes, you can shoot 5 or 6 arrows, or handgun rounds while reloading a ML, but both take much more practice. It would be ideal to get her started on all 3, but if time is short, I would go with ML. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 15, 2023 I see after rereading this…. mid nov , does not own a bow. I recant my advise. get a cheater ar pistol 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonefishn Report post Posted November 15, 2023 @oz31p I will get her a bow and see if she can pull back enough poundage, the question was more about a backup firearm incase she does not like, or cant pull back enough poundage. I know the post was not worded well. @UggRedBilly Thanks for the advice and specifics on equipment. I think I will get a bow for her and a muzzy as backup. I hope she will like bow tho. Gives me a reason my wife cant be mad I bought a muzzleloader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonefishn Report post Posted November 15, 2023 @forepaw Thanks for the advice she took both the deer and javelina off of shooting sticks so I think she would be most comfortable with that. Any suggestions on muzzleloader, primers, powder and bullet. She is a pretty good shot and I will try to get her in close so I am not too worried about getting a bunch of quick shots off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted November 15, 2023 I'm with oz here ar pistol if she can't pull the bow back. Also I thought they bumped archery minimum poundage to 40 pounds. Or maybe it was 30 and they bumped it to 35. I'm sure someone can chime in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, CatfishKev said: I'm with oz here ar pistol if she can't pull the bow back. Also I thought they bumped archery minimum poundage to 40 pounds. Or maybe it was 30 and they bumped it to 35. I'm sure someone can chime in. 30 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted November 15, 2023 5 hours ago, gonefishn said: @oz31p I will get her a bow and see if she can pull back enough poundage, the question was more about a backup firearm incase she does not like, or cant pull back enough poundage. I know the post was not worded well. @UggRedBilly Thanks for the advice and specifics on equipment. I think I will get a bow for her and a muzzy as backup. I hope she will like bow tho. Gives me a reason my wife cant be mad I bought a muzzleloader I started shooting my bow at about 8 years old and quickly got up to 35 pounds. Plenty on practice and she will get there in no time. But the AR pistol will probably be the best option and easiest to learn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forepaw Report post Posted November 16, 2023 23 hours ago, gonefishn said: @forepaw Thanks for the advice she took both the deer and javelina off of shooting sticks so I think she would be most comfortable with that. Any suggestions on muzzleloader, primers, powder and bullet. She is a pretty good shot and I will try to get her in close so I am not too worried about getting a bunch of quick shots off. I am anything but an expert, but from what I have seen, the in-line break action muzzleloaders are pretty easy to use. I would think a .45 cal. w, sabots and white hot pellets (2 ea. depending on bullet weight), and 209 primers would be a good combo. You can buy the little tubes to hold everything (except the primers) to make reloading easier when you are out in the wind with freezing fingers. Hard to go wrong with a Knight or similar. They seem pretty affordable. Expect to run a patch through every 1/2 dozen or so shots. Hope it works out for ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted November 17, 2023 I ve got a muzzleloader you could borrow for her hunt if needed . It's a tc encore and you could easily download powder with blackhorn 209 . It shoots a hornady 250 sabot round . I'm up hunting elk with my dad this week but let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted November 17, 2023 AR "pistol" or any if those other pistols that shoot rifle distances. Tc, remington 700,. Slap a scope on it, bipod and shoot as far as you need.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites