jamaro Report post Posted December 31, 2008 Grrr.... You guys know that I usually try to stay out of stuff like this but for some reason this ladies article really hit me the wrong way... Take a look at her attack and my response on my website... Visit My Website Some people.. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbyo Report post Posted December 31, 2008 Jamaro, I was wondering being from NM what you think of Richardson. He seemed to be the most qualified Demo, yet the least qualified wins. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamaro Report post Posted December 31, 2008 Personally, I think he was the best choice for the Dems... and he has alot of the same views I do.... I believe he was the only Dem candidate that always packs a Glock... he is my kind of guy... J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted December 31, 2008 I don't know who came up with "more oryx in New Mexico than in Africa," but it's not true and never has been. The gemsbok oryx that were introduced to New Mexico is a common antelope in Namibia, Botswana and South Africa, as well as parts of Angola and Zimbabwe. They are in no way threatened or endangered. Nobody's counted them that I know of, but there must be many hundreds of thousands of them in southern Africa. I have seen many hundreds of them over the more than two decades I hunted in southern and central Africa. There also is no shortage of beisa and fringe-eared oryx in East Africa. These two antelope are the same species (Oryx gazella) as the gemsbok, but each is different in appearance. It is the scimitar-horned oryx (Oryx dammah), found on the fringes of North Africa's Sahara Desert, that are classified as endangered -- and they are being reintroduced to several areas where they had been extirpated. They are a different species and look nothing at all like the other oryx. Their horns are scimitar shaped, of course, but they also are a pale color, have large feet, and lack the "blocky" look that the other oryx have. They are being raised on game ranches in South Africa, Namibia, several U.S. states (especially in Texas), Argentina and at least one country in Europe. As far as I know, they haven't made it to New Mexico. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamaro Report post Posted January 3, 2009 Bill... Thank you for setting me straight... I made a comment on my website that I was wrong about the numbers... J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFGinNM Report post Posted January 3, 2009 Jason, I heard something similar about the Oryx populations years ago. I think it was a story about Oryx and how WhiteSands had a bigger population than the Kalihari, or where ever NM got the original breed stock from. Never lost sleep over it, I get a bigger charge out of native game. --Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted January 3, 2009 Jason, I heard something similar about the Oryx populations years ago. I think it was a story about Oryx and how WhiteSands had a bigger population than the Kalihari, or where ever NM got the original breed stock from. Never lost sleep over it, I get a bigger charge out of native game. --Bill Whoever wrote that was guilty of spreading fables because it was never true. The Kalahari Desert covers more than 362,000 square miles of mostly unihabited arid terrain of three countries, and gemsbok oryx are in virtuallly every suitable niche across it. The White Sands are only 275 square miles in size, according to Wikipedia. Don't know if this includes only the national monument, but it doesn't matter. New Mexico's gemsbok habitat is limited. The entire state of New Mexico, which has a lot more people and where introduced gemsbok oryx are found in only a few places, is just 161,665 square miles. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFGinNM Report post Posted January 3, 2009 I agree with you Bill, I think it the article was from some Biologist types trying to start a cause to remove all non-native animals from NM by saying that Oryx are displacing the native mammals, and destroying the native food sources for deer and pronghorn. I'll see if I can find the article somewhere. --Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamaro Report post Posted January 4, 2009 So... the next questions is... If they were never threatened... Why did we plant them in NM??? J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted January 4, 2009 So... the next questions is... If they were never threatened... Why did we plant them in NM??? J A governor who had hunted gemsbok in southern Africa felt they would do well in New Mexico, and pressured the game and fish department to stock them for hunters. Ditto for audad and ibex. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac guy Report post Posted January 4, 2009 The more the merrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
