Ranchers Cave in to Huggers!

[hunterdude]

? You say that ranchers don't contribute to wildlife? You need to take a drive to the 96 ranch southeast of Florence. Very little deer and less water now that the ranchers have sold that land to a private owner (not ranchers). then tell me they don't contribute!!!!

[newbee]

I 'm listening CHD- If your cousin is a whinner and shams out of work thats his fault-the farmers and ranchers I have met had me awstruck at thier dicipline- there are lazy sack-o-crap Oxygen thiefs in every walk of life.

And every one here has got one in thier family or closely related to one.

The world we live in today will be the ruin of our nation,How many young adults do you know???think about that-my grand parents looked the same as they did 50 yrs ago(till they passed) cause life was hard living and any thing you wanted or needed you had to earn. they were men and woman by the age of at least 17 . nowadays you couldnt beat "what a kid wants to do with thier life" out of them. all they know is they want it all and not do shoot for it.

Bottom line for me and the reason I chime in on posts that MENTION GRANOLA EATING FINGER POINTING TREE HUGGING PETCHULY WEARING TOFU SNACKING SANDLE SPORTING HACKY SACK PLAYING butt SITTING NO SHOWER TAKIN NAPPY ASSED HAIR HAVING HIPPIEs ,THAT HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO-(REALY NO RESPONSABILITIES) THAN COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A BITCH THEY ARE AND HOW EVERY ONE ELSE SHOULD CATTER TO THEM!! MAKE ME F@$*ING SICK!!!

it a shame that the poeple who should be out there fighting for our rights and try to make a difference are to busy trying to make a honest living and support themselves or families, and here's a lil more salt in the wound our tax dollars are supporting the verry same granollas trampling our rights!

could you imagine our country if it were how they wanted it?

wed be on the bottom of the food chain and the next territory of ,well any nation with balls.

makes me

sorry for the tangent

[patrick15]

"Long story short, I think it was the natural fire regime that was most important in keeping most of the plant communities in check, along with migratory (short duration, intense) grazing. Removing public lands grazing is not the answer. Tonto"

 

Hello. The natural fire regime was altered in grasslands by not only man's fire suppression but by the livestock eating the grass that is supposed to burn. It cant carry fire unless it is present. Then, these so called "land steward" introduced cheat grass and Red Brome and left their cows to further spread them by disturbing the soil and boom.....screwed up fire regimes.

 

Also, short duration, intense grazing is not the answer. Savory method works where it was developed......Africa where the land evolved with lots of heavy fast moving ungulates. We never had that in AZ or NM. It only compacts the soil and helps weeds establish.

 

Removing public lands grazing is the answer.

I think that it is sad that most people on this web site are ignorant of a land practice that directly impacts what they love the most...wildlife and hunting.... Let go of those John Wayne myths and educate yourself about livestock and wildlife habitat. IT SUCKS AND I AM TIRED OF MY TAX MONEY GOING TO SUBSIDIZE RANCHING. It doesnt matter what they did in the past...if you love cowboys and cows...and this myth about ranchers taking care of the land....right now..they are depleting the range of wildife forage and you are allowing it to happen!

 

I agree with you Bowsniper...too bad everyone else seems to have their head stuck in a cowboy movie.

[patrick15]

[bottom line for me and the reason I chime in on posts that MENTION GRANOLA EATING FINGER POINTING TREE HUGGING PETCHULY WEARING TOFU SNACKING SANDLE SPORTING HACKY SACK PLAYING butt SITTING NO SHOWER TAKIN NAPPY ASSED HAIR HAVING HIPPIEs ,THAT HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO-(REALY NO RESPONSABILITIES) THAN COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A BITCH THEY ARE AND HOW EVERY ONE ELSE SHOULD CATTER TO THEM!! MAKE ME F@$*ING SICK!!!

 

 

A little angry????

 

Why is it that anyone that doesnt agree with the mainstream is called these foul names??

 

Newbie....You should learn learn how to spell before you try to assert angry baseless opinions

[Dan H]

Well it least CHD is back postin topics.

I didn't get anything out of reading all them posts.

 

Why can't we just all get along?

 

Ok CHD

 

Go Denver Bronco's.

 

You can doooo it,.... allllll night loooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Have fun

Dan

[KGAINES]

Dan the post from newbee was from jan. 05, I thought the same thing until I looked, a year old and still getting posts.

[Dan H]

TTTTTTT!!! Here I figured it was a comeback tour from CHD.

Well he's still out there. Probaby chnaged his name.

Didn't even look at the date. Thanks

Dan

[singleshot]

Take a tour of the double circle allotment in unit 27 ( 45,000 acres ) very little water ever established, very little wildlife. Now tour the anchor ranch wich abuts the double circle. 10,000 acres, a hundred years of backbreaking work to establish water. Abundant wildlife, probably the single largest population per square mile of mule deer in unit 27. They ranch holistically wich means keeping cattle constantly on the move and the forest service doubled the cow calf count because of fear of fires.

Profiling ranchers makes about as much sense as profiling the nationality that makes up the majority of a prison population. There is good and bad in all walks.

The anchor ranch pays more in state and federal taxes each year than the average wage of a college graduate, the profit being enough to sustain two people.

The range maggots being referred to are the healthy and able bodied sponges in our society soaking up the welfare, food stamps, and health care that the backbreaking people provide for them.

We lose the public lands rancher, we all lose.

[singleshot]

Take a tour of the double circle allotment in unit 27 ( 45,000 acres ) very little water ever established, very little wildlife. Now tour the anchor ranch wich abuts the double circle. 10,000 acres, a hundred years of backbreaking work to establish water. Abundant wildlife, probably the single largest population per square mile of mule deer in unit 27. They ranch holistically wich means keeping cattle constantly on the move and the forest service doubled the cow calf count because of fear of fires.

Profiling ranchers makes about as much sense as profiling the nationality that makes up the majority of a prison population. There is good and bad in all walks.

The anchor ranch pays more in state and federal taxes each year than the average wage of a college graduate, the profit being enough to sustain two people.

The range maggots being referred to are the healthy and able bodied sponges in our society soaking up the welfare, food stamps, and health care that the backbreaking people provide for them.

We lose the public lands rancher, we all lose.