Rude hunters

[105Coues]

These people you speak of are in almost every whitetail hunt I go on. My wife's second deer she killed was on the ground across the canyon from us and had been motionless for at least ten minutes before one of the sound chasers came across it and shot it twice, once in the ear and once in the gut. This was only an hour after another guy yelled "Seen anything!!" and scared the first deer she was going to shoot off (unit 33). Another day I watched nine hunters from my pre-dawn perch as they fanned out like British soldiers determined to take the hill I was on. I was fortunate and killed a 98" buck just as they topped the hill (unit 33).

I glassed a nice buck in 36A only to have three guys come up behind us and see where we were looking. While we were in position to shoot the deer and were waiting for him to get up that evening. The same three idiots who came up behind us walked all the way around to the other side of the deer and jumped him up. They let lead fly and one of the guys actually hit him on the run.

 

I could go on and on.. I feel your pain!!!!

 

I only hope that you guys express your position of the hunts being overcrowded to the G&F dept.

Or maybe someone should call Taulman and have him pull some strings for us. He is obviously in tight with them since they did absolutely nothing to address the nonresident problem.

 

If Lark ever writes his book, I have some comical yet disturbing stories for him.

[firstcoueswas80]

when i had shot my first deer, these two other hunters came off of the hill that we were on before we had moved to a ridge to shoot. atfer the deer had been down for about 5 minutes, we were waitng for our buddies who had pushed it out, to go mark it so we could go to them, the guys from the hill started walkng down right to it and the whole time my dad is yelling at them to get the 1@#!@#$ away( i was reloading). i honeslty think that if our buddies hadnt showed up right when the two other hunters passed it, and if we hadnt been yellin at them from the ridge top, they would have stolen my deer, i mean it was the last day, and a respectiable 80" 3x3 with eye guards.

[105Coues]

I just had some more this last weekend. My father was stalking some pigs and we were talking on radios about the pigs. Some guy comes on the radio and says " I'm glad your finding them because we aren't seeing any over here. These guys must have been scanning channels on a GMRS radio to find us. We were on channel 18 Sub Channel 7. The odds of them convieniently being on the same channel but never talking for the first two hours of daylight are slim. Then they proceded to move in on us and chase the pigs everywhere. I feel for the people that suck at hunting so bad that they have to follow others around.

[az4life]

I think those "pigs" that tryed to rip off your game with radio scans should be hung out to dry. I guess that is one of the problems that frs gmrs radio conversations are on public airwaves. Use no scrambler and you best be careful what is said.

 

Maybe you should have chimed in as "Fred the Game Warden" and let them know you were on the way up to them also to check licenses and tags.

 

One good turn....

[More D]

I think we all have had something happen to us. Mine was while heading out early to 36C to chase the mulies with a bow. My partner and I were just driving out to the spot and we notice a NICE 3x3 with his girls calmly feeding about 100 yards from the road. We deturmined the wind direction , drove up another 200yards and started to unpack our bows, etc. A quick check of the mulies.... still feeding away from us into the wind where we planned to come up from behind to the BIG boy at the back of the pack. Just about to finish getting ready and truck coming from the opposite direction very very slowly with two up front and two in back. As they drove by the guys in back were sitting on the spare tire with camo head to toe, bows in the vertical position, arrow nocked. They gave a nod as they drove buy. It was VERY clear that we were getting our stuff ready to start a stalk, start walking , whatever.

Needless to say the truck, in clear view of us, stopped at seeing the same mulies and three guys flew off the truck and the previously calmly feeding deer did not like what they saw and took off with the three ""hunters"" in tow.

Road hunting and bows in hand, arrow nocked only to scare away the deer. We were pissed and got in our truck and quickly drove away before we did something stupiderr.

 

 

 

[257stw]

I have read many of the posts here, and have had my share of problems, but thought I would add this one. We spent all summer scouting and thought we had found the land of milk and honey. Nice bucks every time we scouted and no signs of other people. Even killed a 500 lb bear on one of the trips, scored 19 3/4". Well come season, two other groups show up. We talked to them and they all seemed like good people. We were 12 miles in from the road, so we figured they would be a little more serious hunter types. We all got together and made a game plan so we wouldn't be walking on eachother. It worked out perfectly and we all were in deer. It was refreshing to hunt with/around people that were respectable and professional. Too bad this is the exception rather than the rule.

[More D]

Sure is.

 

 

 

[Noel Arnold]

After reading 257stw and his comments. And also from my own experiences ,when you hike in a long way the type of people you encounter are usually more respectfull. Unless they drove there quads offroad for miles.Those people you feel like shooting there quads and make them walk out. Which will make them have a Heart attack because there in such bad shape.

Noel

[gnoto]

I always take the forward approach. Those guys in the truck would have to run me over or stop. I'm friendly to an extent! Help a guy when he needs it everytime. I ahve a habit of stopping at every camp I see on my way in. I say hi ask them wher ethey intend to hunt and let them know where I will be. If we cross paths its friendlier and there is no question who was going where. Lots of guys just like to drive around like my Father in Law. He is no thte kind to jump out of the truck but he will note what he was and come back when the time is right. GEt to know whoever is out there. Nov hunt is 36A Stopping helped. LAter on these guys came to me and my partner needing help finding 3x they had gotten earlier in the day. Two things. We were able to help them find the deer and it happenns when this guy was lining up his shot we were close by and were informed enough on where he would be that we never disturbed his shot and knew who was shooting where and why. MAkes things easier. There are a lot more os us out there then you think stop say hi tell us your plan we will tellyou ours and all bag some game!

[BASS]

gnoto, that wasn't you and your wife Elk hunting in 6A N/S in '03 was it? The reason I ask is that a couple came into our camp about 2000 the night before opening day. They didn't leave until just before 2300. We BSed with them for the longest time. But on Saturday his wafe came running into our camp and scared the heck out of us saying that her husband was lost with a Bull wounded. He had a radio, but his GPS was dieing fast. We all grabbed our radios, and GPS, plugged in his coordinates and had him back at his camp with in an hour. We all (about six of us) went back out to get his elk, which had began to walk towards the camp before dropping about thirty yards from a road!

 

I loved this couple so much! They where true hunters, and where the best people to meet out while hunting.

[Couesi1]

Quads arent the problem in themselves. The people who don't operate them in a courteous, legal, ethical manner are. Unfortunately, that number is increasing as more of the generation X types are getting into the outdoors and riding their quads.......they give the others a bad name. Things may be tightening up in the near future as they pertain to highway rules, which should help with the problem. It's about time!

Couesi1

[Couesi1]

Correction.....as they pertain to "off highway vehicle rules"

sorry.

Couesi1

[patrick15]

My friend was stupid enough to glass the game warden up in 24A thru his scope. He ended up in handcuffs and a $750 fine. Just a warning.

[Psychozar]

How is it going fellow hunters? I thought I would add a sour story to the topic.

this year I helped my handicapped uncle put up his new ladder stand at a water hole near Flagstaff. The first day he sat in the stand, he had several does approach the water hole. The does were hesistant and never came in to water. We thought we would give the stand a break for aday in the hopes that the deer might calm down. When my uncle made his next attemt to hunt the tank, he discovered Goldilockshad been lounging in his stand. She left her candy bar wrappers littering the base of the stand. Uncle Ben assesed the situation and noticed an odd sway about his ladder. It was bent inward. Uncle decided to hunt the stand despite his findings. Unfortunately, when uncle Ben reached the platform, He found further damage to the stand. Where the ladder attaches to the platform, the metal was literally ripped. This stand was brand new, and had a 300# rating. Apparently Goldilocks was a big girl.

 

Happy Hunting,

 

Mark

[tucsonbill]

We had a guy and his son drive a quad into camp the evening before opening day just before dark. He said they were going to make sure his sons rifle was "on."

 

I was literally speechless. Before I could get past my astonishment and say anything,they drove up about 200 yds and started blasting away. My wife and I walked up there and they were then returning back down the road. The guy says "so you didn't get drawn this year?"

Like we were just by chance out there camping and wearing camoflauge. My wife said yes, we were drawn. I asked where they were hunting. The guy said "Oh, waaay over there."

 

I said, "wow, I guess we'll go waay over there and sight our rifles in." He looked

kind of funny, then said "Im sorry" and took off. I was able to say to myself "ok, he made a mistake, let it go."

 

That wasn't the end. Over the next couple of days, I guess waay over there wasn't panning out for them. We saw these guys doing what in my army days we called recon by fire. They would walk the ridges and find a likely canyon. Then they would just start blasting away to see if they spooked a deer up. My friend was in one of these canyons and almost returned fire. My wife and I were in one and let me tell you, it got kinda noisy. Two other hunters we met said they saw the same thing.

 

These guys also thought it was good fun to ride their quads all over the area until two or three in the morning. Why me lord?