trphyhntr Report post Posted August 26, 2022 Wait, more deer were killed in the units with good deer populations and nicer weather? I’m shocked. Plus a spike Muley has more meat than a mature coues… 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 27, 2022 3 hours ago, ForkHorn said: I think the data shows it's a lot easier to kill a muley with a bow than a Coues. FIFY. I'm mostly kidding and I agree with the rest of your post. That said and to further agree, the harvest in one week between species with consideration to the population of each, makes me wonder if young mule deer have been more subject to advancing archery equipment and OTC hunters than the standard explanation of drought, habitat fragmentation, cattle, etc. Just a wonder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, CatfishKev said: Is that why point restrictions don't work?? I have no idea why they don't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, CouesPursuit said: FIFY. I'm mostly kidding and I agree with the rest of your post. That said and to further agree, the harvest in one week between species with consideration to the population of each, makes me wonder if young mule deer have been more subject to advancing archery equipment and OTC hunters than the standard explanation of drought, habitat fragmentation, cattle, etc. Just a wonder. doesn’t look like many desert muleys are getting killed. Apparently 24a 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Desert mule deer get a prorate for sure, a different animal if you will. Again, just a wonder that young mule deer have endured too much OTC archery harvest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Poor little deer. Never had a chance with the race to kill out that it is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Am I missing something or is it just speculation that spikes and forkies are being killed alongside the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted August 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, creed said: Am I missing something or is it just speculation that spikes and forkies are being killed alongside the road. Speculation, just like it being a race to kill. I know plenty of guys who didn't go out opening weekend. Looks like my areas will be open in Dec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RackTracker Report post Posted August 27, 2022 file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/54/04/5A94D680-3C8C-46B0-9E9B-5F0B817E127E/IMG_0445.mov good luck avoiding these…… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Would anyone speculate otherwise? I don't look forward to hearing about pressure in the units still open in December/January. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, CouesPursuit said: Would anyone speculate otherwise? I don't look forward to hearing about pressure in the units still open in December/January. Nope, that would be the stereotypical speculation. I think the same amount of deer have been getting killed for years. I guess it's a little shocking to see actual numbers, but not surprising to me. As far as spikes and forks getting killed off the road. Nothing new imo, small muleys almost always give you shot from the road, same as cow elk or spike elk for that matter. Dec/ Jan will almost for sure have more people concentrated in the open units. Adapt quick because I have a feeling this quota system will not make it 10 years before it is draw only. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, HuntHarder said: Nope, that would be the stereotypical speculation. I think the same amount of deer have been getting killed for years. I guess it's a little shocking to see actual numbers, but not surprising to me. As far as spikes and forks getting killed off the road. Nothing new imo, small muleys almost always give you shot from the road, same as cow elk or spike elk for that matter. Dec/ Jan will almost for sure have more people concentrated in the open units. Adapt quick because I have a feeling this quota system will not make it 10 years before it is draw only. No disagreement there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Anyone have an point restriction studies they know of? I have mixed feelings on them. I would like to see some of the benefits and downfalls of them. Not opinions, like actual facts. Who here was hunting when we had point restrictions? If you were, do you remember why they failed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted August 27, 2022 Reason northern units are filling or filled, is the 1000’s of people heading north. Just drove down from Heber to the valley this afternoon( don’t ask why) traffic backed up 5 miles going into Payson. Saw about 4 trucks pulled off the 87 south of Payson. Hunt in 80 or below vs 95 plus? No brainer. I’d love to set a deer mannequin off the 300 road next weekend and watch 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
