Is Prop 202 a fraud

[DesertBull]

Prop 202 is being touted as a anti-illegal immigration law, but it is it?

 

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/oct...uld-enable.html

 

 

An initiative on the Arizona ballot for November 4 – Proposition 202 or the so-called Stop Illegal Hiring Act – does the exact opposite of what it claims. It would gut Arizona's strong employer sanctions law and allow illegal-alien employers to return to "business as usual." Should this state initiative pass, it will have adverse national implications. The group Vote No on Prop. 202 is raising funds to oppose this fraud on the voters.

 

The idea behind Prop. 202 is ingenious from an open-borders perspective – propose and heavily underwrite passage of an initiative that sounds like it would be tough on illegal-alien hiring but would accomplish the exact opposite. State Rep. Russell Pearce, the author of Arizona’s current law and one of the leading opponents of Prop. 202, says the initiative would:

 

Abolish the mandatory use of E-Verify for workplace eligibility verification (the very reason why Arizona’s law is effective);

Exempt thousands of Arizona employers from the law;

Require all complaints regarding possible employer violations to be written and signed (stops employee whistleblowers from submitting anonymous tips);

Preclude Arizona from sanctioning an employer until after the Federal government has taken action (Arizona’s law was necessary because of Federal inaction);

Establish a "non-rebuttable" presumption of innocence if an employer uses either the fraud-ridden I-9 employment form or the bulletproof E-Verify system (gives amnesty to employers who cheat using the I-9); and

Impose an impossible standard of proof (high-level managers who are not company officers or owners could hire illegal aliens with impunity, and would not face any enforcement).

[bowsniper]

Every thing that I have read on 202 indicates that it will have the effect of weakening the current anti-illegal immigration laws. The names and advertisements to several of the propositions are mis-leading or just lies. The best thing to do would be to ignore the advertisements and read the proposition for yourself.

 

Here is a link to all the props: http://www.azsos.gov/election/2008/Info/Pu...ish/Prop202.htm

 

Mark

[billrquimby]

Every thing that I have read on 202 indicates that it will have the effect of weakening the current anti-illegal immigration laws. The names and advertisements to several of the propositions are mis-leading or just lies. The best thing to do would be to ignore the advertisements and read the proposition for yourself.

 

Here is a link to all the props: http://www.azsos.gov/election/2008/Info/Pu...ish/Prop202.htm

 

Mark

 

You also can learn a lot by looking at who is endorsing each proposition. With Prop. 202, it's farmers and restaurant owners.

 

Bill Quimby

[EBB]

A Yes vote on 202 will have the effect of taking the teeth out of the current laws championed by Rep. Russell Pierce.

These laws are working in Maricopa County because Sheriff Arpaio and County Prosecutor Andrew Thomas are enforcing them. Not so much in other Counties where the Political will is lacking. I'll be voting NO on 202. EBB

[bowhunter4life]

I voted No, keep the law as is! mike

[curmudgen]

In my opinion, props 200 and 202 are good arguments for voting yes on prop 105 which would virtually kill initiatives in Arizona. Both are propositions put together by special interst groups, the payday loan industry and the employers of illegal aliens, respectively, to protect their turf and prevent the legislature from regulating their businesses. They have been sold with fraudulent advertising, even in the naming of the propositions, and illustrate the way the initiative process has become corrupted to favor special interests with money and clever lawyers and lobyists providing the necessary expertise to help them fool the public. Some of the other initiatives meet those criteria as well, but it's too late to discuss them at this point. Jack