ThomC Report post Posted April 23, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 10:38 AM, dsotm said: Way too many "stop liking what I don't like" types on here Way too many, PERIOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoney4325 Report post Posted October 27, 2022 just my 2Cents for what its worth, 44yds, homemade peep sight cuz i can't see anymore 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill@roofer Report post Posted October 27, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 7:03 AM, ThomC said: Way too many, PERIOD. Damb Susans😩 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, stoney4325 said: just my 2Cents for what its worth, 44yds, homemade peep sight cuz i can't see anymore That’s pretty cool, you’re like George Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
125coues Report post Posted October 27, 2022 my 2 cents how about a few units with primative weapons only i.e, bow and muzzleloaders only with youth hunts in them also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted October 27, 2022 I'm game for adding a primitive only season with the caveat of dressing the part. Traditional period appropriate attire to match your method of take. Wouldn't that be a crazy time in the outdoors. 🤣 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Chef said: I'm game for adding a primitive only season with the caveat of dressing the part. Traditional period appropriate attire to match your method of take. Wouldn't that be a crazy time in the outdoors. 🤣 Can I dress like this if I get a tag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LKiny Report post Posted October 27, 2022 AZ needs to ban all optics for the muzzy hunts, it was always intended to be a "Primitive Weapons" hunt, unfortunately technology caught up and now you have muzzy's capable of shooting over 1000 yards....really? I'm totally good with using open sights. Ban them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsotm Report post Posted October 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, LKiny said: AZ needs to ban all optics for the muzzy hunts, it was always intended to be a "Primitive Weapons" hunt, unfortunately technology caught up and now you have muzzy's capable of shooting over 1000 yards....really? I'm totally good with using open sights. Ban them! What's next? Should we ban compound bows? No fancy archery sights? Should we ban scopes that dial? Rangefinders? Hunters really are our own worst enemy,. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twistzz Report post Posted October 27, 2022 I just want to get a dang tag lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted October 27, 2022 Anybody ever see any animals taken at 1000 yds with a muzzleloader shooting legal for Arizona loads? Maybe with a gun shooting standard gun powder but not with any blackpowder substitute legal for muzzy hunts .The average animal shot with a muzzy is definitely inside 300 yds and most are 100 or less .A little homework on the subject will show that the gun shooting blackhorn max loads and legal bullets don't have the energy left in it to make a clean kill. Most are rated for 500 yds max on animals due to the rapid loss of energy and inability to expand . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, idgaf said: Can I dress like this if I get a tag ...That's the spirit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted October 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, dsotm said: What's next? Should we ban compound bows? No fancy archery sights? Should we ban scopes that dial? Rangefinders? Hunters really are our own worst enemy,. Couldn't agree more. We want every advantage possible to ensure a kill. We don't worry about 10 years down the road when harvest exceeds fawn survival. Next thing you know, otc tags are gone and opportunity is decreased. Technology keeps advancing, success rates go up and we expect tag numbers to remain stable or increase. Do you remember when getting an animal with a bow or Ml'er was an accomplishment? They put the seasons at a more opportune time of the year to help increase success rates. New Mexico just banned scopes on mler's, I hope AZ follows suit. Do you have any lines you draw on hunter technology? Are you good with thermal imaging animals at night, 24/7 instant notification trail cameras, airbows and crossbows during archery seasons, GPS darting animals to keep tabs on them. I mean, everyone draws a line somewhere, atleast I hope they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted October 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, HuntHarder said: Couldn't agree more. We want every advantage possible to ensure a kill. We don't worry about 10 years down the road when harvest exceeds fawn survival. Next thing you know, otc tags are gone and opportunity is decreased. Technology keeps advancing, success rates go up and we expect tag numbers to remain stable or increase. Do you remember when getting an animal with a bow or Ml'er was an accomplishment? They put the seasons at a more opportune time of the year to help increase success rates. New Mexico just banned scopes on mler's, I hope AZ follows suit. Do you have any lines you draw on hunter technology? Are you good with thermal imaging animals at night, 24/7 instant notification trail cameras, airbows and crossbows during archery seasons, GPS darting animals to keep tabs on them. I mean, everyone draws a line somewhere, atleast I hope they do. With no real data to prove your claim of higher success rates as most states don't require a check in.How do you know for sure .We can all guess and put blame on just about anything. We don't even have accurate numbers for population its just a guess. All hunters have limits and will absolutely use everything that is legal to there advantage .It's been done since the beginning of hunting. There are sites for anti hunters most are run by PETA . As long as it's legal to hunt with let people use what they will and quit complaining!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
