.270 Report post Posted September 30, 2008 hear you go again on the personall stuff. i've lost touch with reality because i know how the gov't is supposed to work? but you are in tune with it because you refuse to accept the truth? it must really be cool to be you. always right. and when you're not, well, you're always right then too. again, if every democrat woulda voted for it, it woulda passed. pelosi couldn't even deliver her own party. she's a joke. the American voters, no matter what party, don't want this bill and politicians have this bad habit of listening to them when they are up for election. and no matter what kinda influence bush had on it, it can not be his bill. even if he did send his democrat cabinet member to front for him. the president cannot introduce legislation. he is the executive branch of the gov't and the 3 branches can't interfere with each other until the bills are passed. then the veto or appeals in court or the override by congess can take place. dang, i thought i was a just an average student. but every day somebody convinces me that i must be a genius. and it amazes me how brave the internet allows some folks to be. these are hard times. everywhere. if you think America is in a bad place, every other country in the world is shakin' in their boots right now because they rely on us for everything. well, except russia. they're used to only a few folks havin' money. or even toilet paper. get parallel to what is going on and pay very close attention to it. and don't believe anything any politician or newscaster says. study it and figure out what is true and what isn't. it ain't that hard. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac guy Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Why is it that when the Republicans held congress, and a bill didn't pass, it was the Republican's fault, and now the Dems hold Congress, and a bill not passing is still the Republican's fault? Wall Street is now Las vegas east. If you play the game, there are risks involved. Nobody puts a gun to your head to invest your money there, you have other options. Look at Scottyboy, he did his homework, and made adjustments to protect himself. It's not my fault that others did nothing. A/C - what if the bill was flawed , or not as good as it could be , or there was embedded corruption ??? Because there was bi-partisan "NO" votes, I am inclined to believe that there are few on the Hill that may want what's best for the country - instead of quick fix. Not saying I'm right, the republican or demoncrats or anyone is right/wrong... but I know if we allow the Bush-appointed idiots who got us here, as well as Pelosi, Reid and Barney Frank [aka Clem Cadiddlehopper] all to mastermind and spear-head a correction plan - then we might as well have the financial genius of Charlie, tax-evader, Rangol to the rescue! "i'm not as think as you drunk I am!" I was referring to the fact that the Dems always seem to get the most air time, and blame the Republicans for anything that goes wrong. I'm glad the bill didn't pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodIsGood Report post Posted October 1, 2008 A/C Guy wrote: I was referring to the fact that the Dems always seem to get the most air time, and blame the Republicans for anything that goes wrong. I'm glad the bill didn't pass. WHEWWWWW! I was beginning to think you might be one of "them". I heard that a business owner who supports Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders! PS when I need a/c help or hear thems that do - you da man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac guy Report post Posted October 1, 2008 WHEWWWWW! I was beginning to think you might be one of "them". I heard that a business owner who supports Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders! Good one. Yeah an Obama presidency won't be kind to us small business owners, or anyone else for that matter. Thanks for the referral offer, I'll need the extra work to pay my taxes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMP Report post Posted October 1, 2008 and it amazes me how brave the internet allows some folks to be. I recon if he knew you he'd be a little more respectful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeybari Report post Posted October 1, 2008 i see how its going to help wall street and yes i have some stocks and m funds but im also a business owner and i dont see how this is going to help me. already taxs are hight and im sure thay are going to get highter insurance well i dont need to go there and it goes on and on and on im not looking for a hand out but lets this gov come up with somthing that will help reg joe that has a hammer in one hand and a bow on the other and a 300 on the back. do somthing or we will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 the paper this morning said that the modified version being sent down from the senate has a buncha tax breaks in it and removes some of the pork. it also said that a lotta democrats were mad about the tax breaks because they said it would affect the deficit. which it will, it'll make it go down. so i guess maybe now even more of em won't vote for it. with these incentives and the fact that some guys got to flex their muscles a little and improve their electability by voting no on the last one, i expect it to pass soon. depends on what kinda pork the house tries to attach to it too. did anybody make a bunch in the market yesterday? 10 grand woulda made 500 bucks just yesterday. it's down a little this morning. one thing i'll never understand about this stuff, is here we are in the middle of what they say is maybe the worst financial crisis in American history, and the dollar the rippin' the pound, the yen and "euro" a new one. it went down a small fraction yesterday, but it's been real high lately. 'course, i have no idea what all that means, but it seems like it'd be down, don't it? oh well, interesting times. give yer kids a lesson in finance right now. like, save yer money. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichiban43 Report post Posted October 6, 2008 Well--They passed & signed it and at 10:12 AM on 10/6 it is down 525. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted October 6, 2008 dang sure a good thing they passed the bailout. imagine where we'd be. wait, the only up day we've had in awhile was the day after they voted the bailout down? that don't make sense. i thought the gov't was our only savior in times of crisis and that hard work and ingenuity were way overated? yep, it's gonna a long road. glad i bought on a down day and sold the next day, last week. gonna be the last time a guy can make much on this market for awhile. all the "bailout" will do for awhile is keep some outfits from closing their doors and filing bankrupcy. the only thing that will fix the market is hard work and ingenuity by the folks that actually make the economy work. if obama gets elected, you can forget that, because he's gonna "regulate" the economy to death. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Browning'sCustomMeat Report post Posted October 6, 2008 EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
