bojangles Report post Posted December 10, 2021 I wrote an email to the commish yesterday supporting Brian rimsza. He has good ideas, kind of making everyone happy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesFanatic Report post Posted December 10, 2021 22 hours ago, NOTAGS said: "the department disagrees". WELCOME to AZGFD hunter input! I think the input and review periods are merely to appease hunters into possibly believing their feedback matters. It's just a legal obligation to take public feedback. I hope they take that into consideration but they do as they please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 9:21 AM, Sky Island junkie said: It’s a guessing game garbage in garbage out 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, AZBIG10 said: garbage in garbage out I was attempting to make that point but no one seems anxious to solve the problem I posed. 🤣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AZBIG10 said: garbage in garbage out Every wildlife agency in the country must put garbage in garbage out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, 654321 said: Every wildlife agency in the country must put garbage in garbage out. Not true. Mandatory reporting on deer harvests are being utilized as we speak in other states. You put actual data in. You get actual data out. I get the algorithms argument. But it’s time to start counting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heat Report post Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 11:41 AM, Sneaker said: I'm telling you guys, the problem is archery demand is higher, compared to rifle demand, than it was 30 years ago, but we are using the same old 20% archery harvest cap. They need to decrease rifle tags and increase archery cap to allow hunters to hunt more overall without killing more bucks. I did a bunch of research and sent in comments and beautiful charts and graphs showing the trend of demand but they just said "the department disagrees". This happens because of the way they allocate the tags based on choices on the apps, otherwise known as the "pie chart". OTC archery is actually hurting us there because not many guys put in for archery hunts as a first choice. If they considered the first and second choice in the pie chart I think we would come out a bit better. At least that's the way they used to figure it out. That might be different now. Either way that 20% thing is ridiculous and was never even part of the picture up until about 10 years ago. When Tice Supplee retired, bowhunters started taking it in the shorts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted December 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, AZBIG10 said: Not true. Mandatory reporting on deer harvests are being utilized as we speak in other states. You put actual data in. You get actual data out. I get the algorithms argument. But it’s time to start counting. Here's the data from the mandatory reports. Answer the question. So let's see...except for the other 24 guys who also killed but lied on their report, honest hunters reported killing130 bucks in ##unit last year. What percentage of the herd in that unit was killed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted December 10, 2021 how soon before we will be required to self-report when we do not wear our masks inside our own homes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, SunDevil said: how soon before we will be required to self-report when we do not wear our masks inside our own homes? I already reported you for predicting UA 2 wins. Be expecting a knock at your door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AZBIG10 said: Not true. Mandatory reporting on deer harvests are being utilized as we speak in other states. You put actual data in. You get actual data out. I get the algorithms argument. But it’s time to start counting. You couldnt prove it to me that New Mexico's wildlife populations are any better off than ours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted December 10, 2021 I was being generous. Had no idea NAU was such a FB power house 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, trophyseeker said: Here's the data from the mandatory reports. Answer the question. So let's see...except for the other 24 guys who also killed but lied on their report, honest hunters reported killing130 bucks in ##unit last year. What percentage of the herd in that unit was killed? I’m missing the arial survey #s. Or are these pretend too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted December 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, 654321 said: You couldnt prove it to me that New Mexico's wildlife populations are any better off than ours. I would say it is a region thing. Amd would argue they are both poor numbers. Hunters call animals pockety. Which translates to low numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted December 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, AZBIG10 said: I would say it is a region thing. Amd would argue they are both poor numbers. Hunters call animals pockety. Which translates to low numbers We live in a desert not Alabama. It’s never gonna be 100 deer per square mile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
