Red Rabbit Report post Posted September 27, 2008 I went out this morning with the best E-Tip loads for the Kimber and HS Precision 300 WSMs, but seated 0.1" off the lands instead of 0.01" There was no improvement in accuracy, but a loss of about 100 fps. Notice that the more accurate loads are about 100 fps less than max for my rifles, and the powder charge is 3-4 grains less than what is used for other conventional bullets (heed the note found in the E-Tip bullet boxes). Looks like I will be stay with 1" 3-shot groups with 150 and 180 E-tips for the HS and 1.1" 3-shot groups with 180s for the Kimber- definitely m.o.e./minute of elk. The Kimber does not like 150s as it sprays them into 3-4" patterns. Hopefully an AZ bull elk will succumb to an 180 E-tip from the 300 WSM. Would be nice to recover the bullet to see performance, but really would prefer a pass-through for 2 leaky blood holes. Chosen loads: HS Precision 300 WSM 150 E-Tip 66.5 gr Ramshot Hunter 3102 FPS, 0.93" 3-shot group HS Precision 180 E-Tip 63.0 gr Hunter 2886 fps, 1.04" 3-shot group Kimber 300 WSM 180 E-Tip 65.0 gr Hunter 2946 fps, 1.10" 3-shot group http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=3&bullet=20 Doug~RR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted September 27, 2008 MOE will have to work... I think "El Chupacabra" is a MOC gun as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooked_on_Coues Report post Posted September 28, 2008 Doug, I have not had the best of luck getting the solid copper bullets to shoot well. I have however had very good results with the MRX, if you can stomach the price..... That is going to be my big animal/big gun bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
More D Report post Posted September 28, 2008 I am also looking for a bullet/load for my wifes elk hunt. The new American hunter magazine mentioned that the E-tip had some issues with the petals breaking off and the exit holes being on the small side. Just thought I would mention it. Especially if it not a real accurate bullet for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffcros Report post Posted September 29, 2008 I got some 5/8'' groups out of my 300 wsm using the 180 gr Etips, I was using Varget powder though and out of my CZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted September 29, 2008 Jeff, How does your CZ group other bullets in comparison to the E-Tips? MoreD, All of the reports I have read mention that the E-Tip opens to a greater frontal diameter than the Barnes TSX. No mention of losing petals, which has sometimes happened with the TSX. I read the Sept AH where it mentioned smaller exit holes, but did not read about lost petals. Doug~RR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues7 Report post Posted September 29, 2008 I assume these are 100 yard groups? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted September 29, 2008 yes, 100 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
More D Report post Posted September 30, 2008 Sorry Doug, I am wrong. The XP3 have issues with petals breaking not the E-Tips. Sorry for the confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultramag Report post Posted October 1, 2008 casey you told me you gun was minute of taco not moc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
