Suspend Campaign for Econ Crisis???

[Ben-Dover]

Now that the first debate WILL happen... what do you think about McCain's actions including suspending campaign, postponing debate, his role in the resolution talks...

 

Were you moved either way?

[DesertBull]

I think he was sincere, but I am still not voting for either of these gas bags.

[ghost hunter]

This economic crisis has brought it all out, grandstanding, stalling, stunts, you name it. Who has been doing them, just about everyone involved.

 

Whether it was geniune or not, suspending your campaign, canceling the debate and returning to Washington to deal with this unprecedented economic crisis is EXACTLY what our elected officials should do. I think the fact Obama didn't think of it says alot about his character. With him its not what is good for the country, its what is good for me. I wasn't ever going to vote for him but stunts like that certainly would have sealed the deal. I can only hope that others see it for what it was.

 

I'm definitely not impressed with all the "the Dems said this...", "the Reps did that..." "this one is grandstanding..." "that one is...(you name it)". Someone needs to just lock them in their chambers and not let them out until they decide to do what is good for this country, not their party, or their re-election campaigns.

 

Sorry, off the rant.

[DesertBull]

If Obama would have done it, they would be carving his face in Mt Rushmore right now.

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

I got this in an email yesterday..... and it is a dang better sollution than what our polititians will come up with.....

 

 

I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

 

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

 

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000

bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

 

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

 

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a

We Deserve It Dividend.

 

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.

So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

 

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

 

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

 

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college – it’ll be there

Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car – create jobs

Invest in the market – capital drives growth

Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

 

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

 

If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’ s really do it...instead of trickling out

a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

 

If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

 

As for AIG – liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

 

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

 

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

 

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

 

How do you spell Economic Boom?

 

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion

We Deserve It Dividen d more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.

 

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned

instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

 

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic &n bsp; &n bsp;

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s either good for a laugh

or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

[hookedoncoues]

That was very well said, Coues "n" Sheep. I agree.

[Ben-Dover]

I agree with much of CnS's thoughts - but rapid and well-thought action IS needed to inject both capital and confidence in the economy.

 

As a business owner I can tell you that even IF you have a job with some notion of job-security, you are worried about what is gonna happen and reacting by holding off on purchases, even vital services like auto maintenance and repairs [my field].

 

So, until folks feel more at-ease about what is happening, the machine is going to break even further. I agree with some schmucks on the hill that there should be investigations, dismissals and even some prosecutions for thems who knew what was coming and did nothing. And the idea that some exec's will receive golden parachute pay-offs as the rest of us take our first of many bites of the sh_t sandwich they cooked-up is INSANE!!!

 

I was really hoping McLame would have explained his stunt running to DC to save, salvage, lead... or at least use the debate to explain what role he served in those 2days. Even if he WAS spoiler on the deal being negotiated - tell us McLame, WHY WAS IT IN THE COUNTRY'S BEST INTEREST TO SLOW, KILL, RE-THINK that $700B proposed porkin'!!! We're not ALL sheeple, we can connect with the truth and common sense. That is how to lead and succeed!

 

Couldnt he simply say "Look everyone, it took several years to get things THIS fouled up, there is no logical explanation that the optimal answer MUST be rammed down everyone's throats in 5days. I have proposed moving forward by convening an economic summit comprised of experts from around the world - to craft a plan that protects the tax-payers and stimulates the economic recovery." THERE, WAS THE SO FRICKIN TUFF MCLAME??? This election can be easily lost, even with Palin, if you act the geriatric loose cannon that you are!

[GodIsGood]

+1 Well said Ben!!

[bobbyo]

Coues and Sheep I know you did not do the math because it was sent. Whoever did it gets a big fat F in math. 80 billion divided by 200 million is only 425 dollars.

Bob

[bobbyo]

Ron Paul is the only politician I know of that understands what the IVY league power elite are trying to do to the USA. Henry"Dr. Evil" Paulson is trying to rob this country blind and everyone, but Ron Paul, is going along for the ride. If interested You Tube Ron Paul's questioning of Paulson and Bernanke and i think you will understand more about what this crisis is all about.

Bob

[JMP]

 

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in

a We Deserve It Dividend.

 

 

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

 

 

 

 

The problem is not the price tag they putting on it per se... and it's not that we have to stave off an recession... that's what got us into this mess. the problem with the whole situation is really two fold, as I see it. First, it's about the dollar. why stop at $595,000? why don't we make every american a millionaire? because it doesn't matter how much money they hand out, the dollars are worthless because they are not backed by anything. and this bailout is just going to make that more severe. we need this recession so that we can rebuild. I for one don't want the idiots on the hill to do anything. i want the medicine now. is it gonna hurt? dang right. but we'll all be better off in a few years. if, alternatively, the fed and paulson insist on propping up house prices up (price fixing) by passing this bailout, then they'll just prolong the recession that is inevitable. read about the depression. it was prolonged and made worse by price and wage fixing. this is another new deal, and it's bad news.

 

the second, and biggest problem i have with it, is how quickly we can move toward socialism (under a "conservative" administration). we're now talking about government ownership of property and equity in the private sector. essentially it's a government seizure, because the money they are paying for these assets is printed and has no intrinsic value.

 

and i look at it like this. three weeks ago bernanke and paulson told us the economy was essentially sound, which mccain and palin unfortunately echoed over and over. now they are saying that if something isn't done within 48 hours we'll have an economic meltdown. this tells me one of two things about these two men. Either 1) they didn't see this coming, which says they are entirely incompetent and should be removed from their positions, or 2) they did know it was coming, lied about the economy until lehman brothers failed, and then wanted to act, in which case they should be removed from their positions. The same idiots that keep telling us it's ok it's ok are now telling us what we must do to avert a meltdown? please.

 

thank god for the house republicans blocking the bailout. i just pray they someday begin to act prudently with the sweat of our brows.

[JMP]

Ron Paul is the only politician I know of that understands what the IVY league power elite are trying to do to the USA. Henry"Dr. Evil" Paulson is trying to rob this country blind and everyone, but Ron Paul, is going along for the ride. If interested You Tube Ron Paul's questioning of Paulson and Bernanke and i think you will understand more about what this crisis is all about.

Bob

 

 

Amen. the austrian economist have been predicting this for years. and they were mocked and chided all through the good times of the bubble. ron paul was laughed off the stage by romney and mccain and giulianni, and he's the only one of them that had any kind of sense about the situation we are in, and how to get out of it.

 

he currently has proposed an act to do away with the federal reserve... too bad we can't get back to a small federal government, no central bank, and a system of governance that the founders gave us.

[DesertBull]

Ron Paul is the only politician I know of that understands what the IVY league power elite are trying to do to the USA. Henry"Dr. Evil" Paulson is trying to rob this country blind and everyone, but Ron Paul, is going along for the ride. If interested You Tube Ron Paul's questioning of Paulson and Bernanke and i think you will understand more about what this crisis is all about.

Bob

 

 

You can still write his name in on the ballot. It's not throwing away your vote, it's voting for the person who YOU want to be President.

[TAM]

Yes you can still write in Luke Skywalker's name as well and we all know that he has the force and is quite skilled at fighting the evil powers of the dark side!

 

Yoda could be another good choice. I believe he's much more consertive than Luke, but then again I think his age is a factor?

 

Yes I'll say it again just for you DB... At this point there are only two canidates in this election, and a vote for anyone other than McCain is a vote for BO.

 

 

 

[DesertBull]

John McCain - Gun grabber

 

http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm