Flatlander Report post Posted November 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, yotebuster said: I like that they’re using a few animals (statistically insignificant) to raise a ton of money. Makes sense in my book. Utah has done incredible things for their deer and elk herds with the money they’ve raised doing similar things. If they want to keep it available to the common man they’re on the right track by keeping it a raffle. If you can get one animal to raise $30-50k you can create a whole lot more opportunity at other animals with that money. Win win for all involved. I deplore Utah’s expo model. But in this case they used a few opportunities to create a bunch of money without impacting tag #’s, making anyone pay extra that didn’t want to, or messing with bonus points. If you are upset by this you are just whining to whine. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhtMtnHunter Report post Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, idgaf said: These six tags are a beta test. Yep, why not just add them to the Big Game Super Raffle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, yotebuster said: I like that they’re using a few animals (statistically insignificant) to raise a ton of money. Makes sense in my book. Utah has done incredible things for their deer and elk herds with the money they’ve raised doing similar things. If they want to keep it available to the common man they’re on the right track by keeping it a raffle. If you can get one animal to raise $30-50k you can create a whole lot more opportunity at other animals with that money. Win win for all involved. I can get behind this. What I disagree with is that they are allowing them to put in for a draw without a license. This isn’t a raffle or an auction. Pony up a license. I get the angle they want to appeal to a bigger crowd. Make them pay for a license in a draw. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted November 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, WhtMtnHunter said: Yep, why not just add them to the Big Game Super Raffle? Because it would generate exactly 0 more dollars doing that. Having a separate draw will entice people to apply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted November 22, 2021 6 hours ago, WhtMtnHunter said: Yep, why not just add them to the Big Game Super Raffle? So they can keep the money in the general fund. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted November 22, 2021 a draw for 6 tags just to get some app fee money eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10Turkeys Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Maybe they felt the need to generate more revenue from the loss they had to have felt at Ben Avery. Instead of lines of people waiting to shoot for the last year or so, it has been by a reservation, and the hours were cut and half the benches wasnt being used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiminAZ Report post Posted November 23, 2021 They need to get Ben Avery back to normal. That place is a PITA nowadays. I don't go anymore. I'd rather drive up to Jim Jones range in Payson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomharveyb Report post Posted November 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, JiminAZ said: They need to get Ben Avery back to normal. That place is a PITA nowadays. I don't go anymore. I'd rather drive up to Jim Jones range in Payson. I asked if they were going back to the pre Covid way, and was told ..no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted November 23, 2021 I belong to Wickenburg's Sportsman Club. Normally have the entire range to myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesFanatic Report post Posted November 29, 2021 Anyone put in yet? How was it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted November 29, 2021 Terrible, wait till next week after they fix the bugs. 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
az41mag Report post Posted November 29, 2021 Application wasn't bad. You will need your Customer ID number though. Also, it's $13 per hunt so $78 if you apply for all 6. I must have misread it originally and thought it was just one $13 application fee for all, (no such luck). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted November 29, 2021 I kinda despise the idea that they gotta put in "another" draw and collect more money when all I want is a tag to hunt deer, elk, turkey every once in a while, much less a sheep or antelope! Where is this "extra" money going? With all the sheet going on in our country I am just a little leery of an extra draw looking for more money! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSR Report post Posted November 29, 2021 In addition to this new "draw", there is also a new "Super Raffle" for bear, lion and javelina. They must have a huge budget crisis. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites