AZMONSTERBULL Report post Posted July 13, 2021 7 hours ago, twigsnapper said: How do you know the cameras are there to “aid in the take of wildlife”. Maybe they are simply a birdwatchers camera? Or a high school students science project? Or perhaps a rancher is doing research on wildlife usage? I wouldn’t recommend vandalizing something that doesn’t belong to you. With 90% of trail cams placed at water being used to help aid, or take wildlife that leaves 10% that might be legally set. I just don’t see hunters leaving 9 illegally set cams alone because there’s a chance one cam might be used legally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twigsnapper Report post Posted July 13, 2021 49 minutes ago, AZMONSTERBULL said: With 90% of trail cams placed at water being used to help aid, or take wildlife that leaves 10% that might be legally set. I just don’t see hunters leaving 9 illegally set cams alone because there’s a chance one cam might be used legally. Hunters should report the concern to the Game and Fish and leave them alone. Just like we would with any other wildlife violation. Why are trail cameras any different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted July 13, 2021 TO REPORT ILLEGAL GAME CAMERAS! That'll light them up! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savagman Report post Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 1:04 PM, twigsnapper said: Hunters should report the concern to the Game and Fish and leave them alone. Just like we would with any other wildlife violation. Why are trail cameras any different? Report, report, report. And now instead of someone checking their camera while you are in your blind it will be AZGFD investigating reports of cameras.... Let the circus begin... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 12:13 PM, AZMONSTERBULL said: With 90% of trail cams placed at water being used to help aid, or take wildlife that leaves 10% that might be legally set. I just don’t see hunters leaving 9 illegally set cams alone because there’s a chance one cam might be used legally. You keep saying “hunters” those are thief’s not hunters 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: You keep saying “hunters” those are thief’s not hunters I guess come January 1st 2022 those hunters that continue to use cameras to locate big game will now need to be called “poachers” and not hunters. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted July 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: You keep saying “hunters” those are thief’s not hunters Not mutually exclusive unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted July 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, 654321 said: I guess come January 1st 2022 those hunters that continue to use cameras to locate big game will now need to be called “poachers” and not hunters. Now that IS mutually exclusive… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 10:30 AM, wetmule said: If OP agrees with the ban of live view cams why would he not agree with the ban on passive cams. My understanding is the reason most folks oppose the live view cams is that you could be in the area and immediately know an animal is in another location “now” and go after it. As opposed to knowing that an animal was in the location at some other time when you check the cam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted July 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, 654321 said: I guess come January 1st 2022 those hunters that continue to use cameras to locate big game will now need to be called “poachers” and not hunters. If that’s what you want to call them. I don’t think cameras are immoral personally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: If that’s what you want to call them. I don’t think cameras are immoral personally Isn’t “poachers” the name used to reference those who break wildlife rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, 654321 said: Isn’t “poachers” the name used to reference those who break wildlife rules. Right now cams are legal, in January they are illegal. Shooting deer with a spotlight at night was never legal that I’m aware of, hunting deer out of season was never legal. I’m not obligated to call anyone anything especially when those in charge are making ridiculous rules 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: Right now cams are legal, in January they are illegal. Shooting deer with a spotlight at night was never legal that I’m aware of, hunting deer out of season was never legal. I’m not obligated to call anyone anything especially when those in charge are making ridiculous rules Rules are rules and just because we don’t agree with them doesn’t justify obeying them, so come January 1st anyone caught and found guilty of using trail cameras in my eyes will be called a Poacher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, 654321 said: Rules are rules and just because we don’t agree with them doesn’t justify obeying them Yeah It does. I don’t rely on the government to tell me what’s right and what’s wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted July 14, 2021 the only people who like this law are a few of the dyed in the wool guides on the strip who have a competitive advantage now without cams, and once a year warriors around the state who have a misconception of how cams work 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites