HuntHarder Report post Posted June 17, 2021 hahahaha. Typical nowadays. Something happens that you do not like, so you sue someone or an agency. I hope AZGFD wipes the floor with them. Guess I will "stay tuned" a little longer. The edited commission meeting video was almost comical. Always shocking when the minority find out that they are in fact the minority and not the majority like they think they are. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZtroutman Report post Posted June 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, HuntHarder said: hahahaha. Typical nowadays. Something happens that you do not like, so you sue someone or an agency. I hope AZGFD wipes the floor with them. Guess I will "stay tuned" a little longer. $50,000 of everyone's money gonna be wasted because Josiah Scott is nuts. Eric English is loving it though. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted June 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, HuntHarder said: hahahaha. Typical nowadays. Something happens that you do not like, so you sue someone or an agency. I hope AZGFD wipes the floor with them. Guess I will "stay tuned" a little longer. The edited commission meeting video was almost comical. Always shocking when the minority find out that they are in fact the minority and not the majority like they think they are. Did you talk in or at least watch the meeting? Comments sent in to the G&F was 2 to 1 in favor of NO CHANGE, so just how is that the minority? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ11 Report post Posted June 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Elkhunter1 said: Did you talk in or at least watch the meeting? Comments sent in to the G&F was 2 to 1 in favor of NO CHANGE, so just how is that the minority? Actually 1274 people supported a ban or some type of regulation while only 1200 wanted no ban. So more people wanted something limiting trail cameras than people who didnt. 832+442=1274 in support of regulation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted June 18, 2021 Well put there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhunter4life Report post Posted June 18, 2021 This is the correct information 2nd round open comments- Total 1,845 public comments plus the One stakeholder who opposes any regulation of trail cameras submitted 6,172 one-page forms containing the same letter/text (opposing the proposal), Trail Camera Summary March 12, 2021 to April 12, 2021 Comments Sorted - 1,845 Oppose Proposed Rulemaking: 1,019 Support Proposed Rulemaking: 71 Regulate the Use of Trail Cameras in Some Manner (as indicated below - blue text): 571 Landowners Control Use of Trail Cameras: 01 Allow Use by CHAMP Holders/Disabled: 01 Allow Use by Tag Holders: 01 Allow Use of Trail Cameras for the Take of Predators: 01 Allow Use of Trail Cameras on Private Property and Prohibit on Water: 01 Conduct Education Campaign on Proper Use of Trail Cameras: 03 Delay Decision and Conduct More Research: 03 Expand Prohibition on Water to Include Natural Water Sources: 112 Limit Tags, Increase Number of Drink Tanks: 01 Limit Tags, Not Cameras: 06 Prohibit by Location Only: 14 Prohibit by Location and Register Trail Cameras: 03 Prohibit by Location, Season, and on Water: 01 Prohibit by Season Only: 24 Prohibit by Season and Register Trail Cameras: 03 Prohibit by Season, Regulate Guides, and Remove Water Locations from Recreational Map: 01 Prohibit by Species: 01 Prohibit Theft/Vandalism of Trail Cameras: 01 Prohibit on Water Only: 39 Prohibit on Water and Register Trail Cameras: 05 Prohibit on Water and Regulate Guides: 02 Prohibit on Water and Restrict SBGLT Holders by Season: 01 Prohibit on Water, Season, and Registration Process: 01 Prohibit Statewide (full ban): 260 Questions and Statements Regarding Proposed Ban: 19 Registration Process for Use of Trail Cameras: 19 Trail Camera Summary March 12, 2021 to April 12, 2021 Comments Sorted - 1,845 Regulate Guides Use of Trail Cameras: 16 Regulate Guides Use of Trail Cameras by Season: 02 Support Proposal with Modifications: 15 Support Season Oppose Water Prohibition: 08 Support Water Prohibition Oppose Season: 31 ********************** 160 duplicate comments were received. Duplicate comments are either multiple comments submitted by the same person or the same comment submitted to multiple Department personnel during the public comment period. Regardless of the number of separate comments a person submits, they are all considered to be one comment. One stakeholder who opposes any regulation of trail cameras submitted 6,172 one-page forms containing the same letter/text (opposing the proposal), but with a different computer generated name, city, and state. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhunter4life Report post Posted June 18, 2021 Plus the first rounds of comments Trail Camera Summary January 1, 2021 to February 1, 2021 Oppose Proposed Ban: 1200 Support Proposed Ban: 833 Regulate Use of Trail Cameras (as indicated below - blue text): 442 Allow use for CHAMP Holders: 03 Allow Trail Cameras on Private Property: 14 Prohibit by Age: 02 Prohibit by Location: 27 Prohibit by Location and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 30 Prohibit by Location and Species: 02 Prohibit by Location and Water: 07 Prohibit in Location and Regulate by Season: 05 Prohibit by Season: 83 Prohibit by Season and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 10 Prohibit by Season and Regulate Guides: 04 Prohibit by Season and Sell Dept. Trail Camera Photo Subscriptions: 03 Prohibit by Season, Prohibit Distribution of Pictures, and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 01 Prohibit by Water: 105 Prohibit by Water and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 26 Prohibit by Water and Distribute Dept. Trail Camera Photos: 01 Prohibit by Water and Regulate by Season: 26 Prohibit by Water and Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Register Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 35 Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Limit/Regulate Guides: 51 Limit/Regulate Guides and Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Limit/Regulate Guides by Season: 01 Conduct Education Campaign on Proper Use of Trail Cameras: 04 Pose Questions Regarding Proposed Ban: 09 Delay the Rulemaking and collect Data: 01 ********************** 254 duplicate comments were received. Duplicate means a person either submitted multiple comments or sent the same comment to multiple Department personnel during public comment period. Regardless of the number of separate comments a person submits, they are all considered to be one comment 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted June 18, 2021 5-0, enough said. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 18, 2021 AZ11 just another scammer 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, 654321 said: 5-0, enough said. not hard to find 5 idiots 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rschaumb Report post Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/11/2021 at 10:11 PM, AZtroutman said: Pretty much a guarantee that this decision will boost age class on the strip. I dont care where you hunt, a unit cannot support killing 20+ 200 inch bucks every single year. How will it boost age class? Having the cameras allows them to know there are bigger older bucks TO target. Without that they might shoot smaller younger deer without knowing there are older ones present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted June 18, 2021 Who cares, its over, everyone shots spikes and 2 points 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
