BIGBUGPETE Report post Posted August 18, 2008 Ok guys im looking to buy a new rifle that i can take long shots at coues with. Possibly 400+ yards. Either a .270 or 7mm. Im also looking for one that will be able to take down elk from maybe 200 yards. Basically i want an all around rifle that is very flat shooting and very accurate. Which rifle would be better? I really want a long shooting deer rifle. Help me guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted August 18, 2008 How about the 30-06 for both uses? Use 150s or 165s for coues, and 180's for elk. It'll be effective for the ranges you noted. There is a wide variety of factory ammo with regular and premium bullets to choose from, and recoil is not bad for lots of practice. Since you emphasized that you really want a flat shooting deer rifle (and hinting possibly beyond 400 yards (after lotsa practice)), the 270 WSM would shine and be less expensive to feed than the 257WBY and it has a wider assortment of factory ammo to cover deer and elk. You can go to federalammo.com and compare ballistics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunDevil Report post Posted August 18, 2008 well if you are looking for a flat shooter you can throw the 30-06 out. I was originally going to say to look at the 270 wsm but I do not know what the largest grain bullet that is offered for this caliber is (165?) However, I do know people that have successfully used bonded 165 grain 7mm mag rounds for elk. so then I would lean toward the 300 wsm. 180 - 200 grain bullets are good for elk and someone (federal?) just came out (last year) with a 130 grain bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Sniper Report post Posted August 18, 2008 I'd stay away from the .270 for elk. Not saying it won't do the job, just a little light for me. For what you are looking for I'd say a 300 Win fits the bill nicely for an all around, flat shooting, accurate, time tested round with plenty of bullet choices available. A 300 RUM would be a good choice as well, and is what i use for both elk and deer. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntnaz Report post Posted August 18, 2008 i have a .270wsm and have taken 2 elk with it, both were 1 shot kills... i think it is a great all around arizona gun!! i dont think you find a flatter shooting more versitile rifle... jmo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbyo Report post Posted August 18, 2008 All this fancy smancy short mag and ultra mags. I guess everyone likes paying $2.00 to $3.00 a shot. A good ole 7mm remington mag would meet all your requirements. A 270 would be fine also with even cheaper bullets. Some say a 270 is too light for an elk, but it has killed more elk then all these new fangled short and ultra's combined. 30 06 is a great round also,but like RR said is not as flat shooting as others. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 18, 2008 i have a .270wsm and have taken 2 elk with it, both were 1 shot kills... i think it is a great all around arizona gun!! i dont think you find a flatter shooting more versitile rifle... jmo Dude I could not find the chart on the web real quick I was looking for on ballistics and do not want to type everything out but here is the trajectory only out of my old Gun Digest Using a 140gr bullet 270 Winchester: 100yds +2.5", 200yds +1.8", 300yds -4.6", 400yds -17.9" 7MM Rem Mag: 100yds +2.5", 200yds +2.4", 300yds -2.4", 400yds -12.7" Pretty easy to see which shoots flatter Sorry Congrats on your 2 Elk with your 270 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted August 19, 2008 Mike, 270 WSM vs 270 Winchester- not the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntnaz Report post Posted August 19, 2008 This is what i could find... 270wsm 140 Gr. Barnes X 100yds +1.21 / 2986 / 2772 200yds+0.00 / 2790 / 2419 300yds -5.67 / 2601 / 2103 400yds -16.51 / 2420 / 1821 7mm mag 140 Gr. Barnes X 100yds +1.20 / 2987 / 2774 200yds +0.00 / 2783 / 2407 300yds -5.69 / 2587 / 2079 400yds-16.61 / 2399 / 1789 i was not arguing the point of the .270 i was arguing for the .270 wsm... theres a difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac guy Report post Posted August 19, 2008 I don't shoot a .270, but there was some O'Connor guy, who killed a heck of alot of animals with one. 17" drop at 400 yds ain't too shabby. I shoot a 30-06. wanna see the drop on that at 400? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 19, 2008 My Bad, I missed the WSM Was just thinking about the original post/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azhuntnut Report post Posted August 19, 2008 This chart will show exactly what each caliber can do for you. David http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistics/?...mp;x=13&y=3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGBUGPETE Report post Posted August 19, 2008 I appreciate all the help guys! Im starting to lean towards the 7MM. I would get on 06 but my dad already has one i can use anytime and im really looking for that flat shooter. How much more does a 7mm kick than a .270 because my girlferiend will be using this gun for her hunt as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac guy Report post Posted August 19, 2008 How much more does a 7mm kick than a .270 because my girlferiend will be using this gun for her hunt as well. get a .270, a muzzle break for the 7mm, or a bigger girlfriend . It kicks a bit more, but if she's used to shooting she can handle it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGBUGPETE Report post Posted August 19, 2008 Well i wouldnt consider her an avid shooter so idk lol. Is the 7mm to much for whitetail?? How does the 7mm kick compared to an .06 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
