What if....

[az4life]

My Brother-in-law just tipped me off to this site DREAM BUCK. Before you Open the pictures tab or the video link, make sure you have some duct tape handy to keep your jaw from hitting the floor.

 

Pretty amazing, and the main reason for the site is to sell the "stud service" (artificially) of this Buck.

 

How'd you like to see this one in your sights?

[Daniel in Ak]

I did not heed your words.

 

I now have drop-lockjaw and drool stains on my computer desk.

 

Man! that is one monster buck and $3500.00 a straw jeez.I'd like a straw and mix that with a coues.......yeah buddy!Daniel

[More D]

Yep that is exactly why I keep tring for the job of stud . Laying in the shade, getting fat and sexed regularly !! No dice yet !! HAHAHA

 

 

 

[CouesWhitetail]

Oh my!! That is awesome

 

Amanda

[az4life]

I read the article about cross breeting mulies and coues, but what about Texas whitetail and coues?

 

Amanda, do you have any insight to share as a game biologist?

[CouesWhitetail]

Not sure what you are asking. Do I think Texas whitetail and Coues can interbreed? yes. But for the most part their populations are seperated.

 

There is an area in West Texas where there is a Whitetail (WT) that is intermediate in form between the two. A little bigger than our Coues and smaller than the Texas WT. Many people call them Carmen Mt. WT.

 

Here is some info from Jim Heffelfinger from his upcoming book about deer in the southwest. Maybe this will give you some of the info you want. Looks like in Mexico there may be more mixing of texas and coues WT. I put his contact info after the information so you can contact him if you want.

 

Coues whitetails in southwestern New Mexico are found primarily in the Animas, San Luis, and Peloncillo mountains extending up to the Mogollon Mountains and Black Range. These whitetails are geographically separated from, and do not interbreed with, the population found in the Sacramento Mountains in south central New Mexico and in scattered, isolated pockets in the eastern half of New Mexico and west Texas (Findley et al. 1975; J. Nelson, personnel communication, NM Department of Game and Fish, 2000; TPWD Files). All white-tailed deer east of the Rio Grande in New Mexico are more similar to those in South Texas (O. v. texanus), which are measurably larger in body and antler size (Bailey 1931, Raught 1967).

 

Although the smaller Coues form and the Texas form of whitetail are separated in the U.S., they blend together across a series of populations south of the border (Findley et al. 1975). Whitetails gradually becomes larger as one moves north and east out of Chihuahua through west Texas, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and then into South Texas (Krausman et al. 1978). Whitetails in northern Coahuila, Mexico and the Chisos Mountains of west Texas have been described as a different subspecies, the Carmen Mountains white-tailed deer (O. v. carminis). These deer are isolated somewhat from both the Coues and the Texas whitetail at the extreme northern portion of their range in west Texas. Krausmen et al. (1978) supported the recognition of Carmen Mountain whitetails as a distinct subspecies based on skull and body measurements of Coues, Texas, and Carmen Mountain whitetails. However, there is no geographical separation of Carmen Mountain whitetails in the central and southern part of their range. In fact, Coues whitetails from western Chihuahua gradually become larger in size throughout their continuous distribution in Coahuila and into South Texas.

 

Farther south in Mexico, the Coues whitetail intergrades imperceptibly into populations of whitetails that have been described as a number of different subspecies. No analysis has ever been conducted on how these whitetails differ from Coues whitetails, or from each other. These deer probably represent a gradient of characteristics throughout the range of this species.

 

 

 

Jim Heffelfinger

Tucson Regional Game Specialist

Arizona Game and Fish Department

555 N. Greasewood Road

Tucson, AZ 85745

 

(520) 628-5376, Ext. 530 (office)

(520) 975-6322 (Cell)

(520) 628-5080 (FAX)

jheffelfinger@azgfd.gov

[bowsniper]

yeah it's big, but it looks like a freak to me.

 

Bowsniper

[CouesWhitetail]

I like all the non-typical points though. Looks pretty awesome albeit a bit freakish.

 

Amanda

[az4life]

I have to say personally, I think the typical racks are nicer to look at. And for this buck, "freakish", really describes it.