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Well I just got out this morning for dove. I couldn't get out the first 2 days. I shouldn't have been suprised to find yet another part of OUR forest closed. This time due to damaged road. closed from Aug. 30th to Sept. 30th.(Just in time for Dove season.) The closure I'm complaining about is the Needle Rock, Box Bar closure just north of Rio Verde. Sand has washed over this road for as long as I can remember, early 80's when I got down here. When will they have the back bone to call it what it is, "They don't want anyone on THEIR forest, Close it all and use any excuse they can" The only damage to the road is the sand washing over the road at the wash crossings. It's not that bad maybe 2 inches of sand on road. Why did they just spend Millions of dollars to update the needle rock area only to close it soon after? Same reason as to why they spent millions on a new road and gate into Lower Sycamore only to close it soon after? I have no idea but I believe it all comes down to close it all, then it won't change and we can all enjoy it from afar. Sorry for the rant but I feel better now