Coues 'n' Sheep

Bull poop. 150 archery kills in ONE UNIT? What was that Mark Twain said about statistics? That is what the man said.... 150 and that would be up from about 90 in 2006 if I'm not mistaken!

I spoke at great length to a WM in the field this weekend and, come to find out, he is one of the four AZGF guys that are writing the new rule.... The NEW RULE will be very much like the bear baiting rule, but more broad. Water and Salt will still be ok..... However, any other bait substance placed for the purpose of hunting or taking any big game will be Illegal. Probably as soon as Jan. 2009 and there is no stopping this new rule. Done deal, end of story, it will not be up for any discussion. FYI, also, 2008 Dec. archery is gone for atleast 3 years in unit 22... according to the stats in 2007 rifle and archery harvests in unit 22 were at 150 each. CnS

The two "official" looking guys and the guy who wore the Cabelas shirt (and ran the cable),said they were Master SCI measurers. The Official guys said they would rescore it, but prefirred not to do it at time (or in the present company..... more or less). Couestaxi.... I can't speak for my buddy.... but I bet he'd run it down just so you could do it. He is SUPER PROUD of his buck (whatever it scores) but does believe the buck deserves every 1/8 that he grew to be recorded... that is what makes the SCI score special.... as we all know nets are for fisherman!

I guess I missed this thread, Mike.... Congrats! I know you were ichin' to get him on the wall!!! The collection in Growing!!!

Congrats on a nice double!!!

That is a great price!!! Have you gotten the tripod yet?? I have that one and like it!

Way to Go, Tim!! The smiles say it all!!

I'd use this opportunity to trade up to a Mathews..... Good luck. CnS

Congrats to you all! Got love getting out with the kids and showing them success, too!!

I'm not willing to post the score he got.... cuz it isn't my trophy and I know that in this case the P&Y Score is far more important anyway and will be well published come March, so you can read the whole story. But I will tell you that even though I think it was a low score he is still well within the top 20 SCI all time N/T coues entries and the new #1 SCI N/T archery coues! Oh, and we will have him (the buck) with us at the ISE show on Sunday March 9th, I think.... At least, that is what I heard last night... might have to keep your eyes open for a guy with a wicked, beaming smile and a dingy canvas sack in his hands! And thank for the replys, guys... Glad to think that I might not be Crazy on this deal.... CnS

I think that we (Huntn coues, extreme coues, myself, and our families) will be there on Sunday. Gunna try to drag JasonClay down as well. Amanda, Can you save me an Epperson Orange and a Tan Shedhunter shirt in XL......Please. Thanks. CnS

I have the Accubrake on one of my 300 Wby's and an Answer Products Brake on the other.... Both are loud!! LOL!! But, the gun with the accubrake is not quite as accurate as the other (may have nothing to do with the brake) and the Accubrake rifle kicks harder, too. I prefir a streamline break that can be taken off for cleaning. Just my $.02 ...... CnS

The question is, reguardless if there was 5 or 500 hunters standing together as one at those meeting would they really listen??? I agree that it is worth every effort, but they sound as if it is and has been a done deal from the beginning. I am against them taking anything else from us. We should all stand together and we should all quit shoving our noses in the air about this and other topics! If any of the methods that are used by hunters in this state are unethical then they are unethical in Texas, accross the Midwest, Canada, Africa, and Everywhere else that anyone has hunted!! But I don't think this topic is unethical in ANY of those places or illegal, for that matter. We are not hunting behind high fences..... That is unethical!!! They make more rules to "help management"???.... Why not use what they have??? If they can predict the annual harvest every year, would it not then be easier to "manage" the herd??? They seem to do a good job with Bears on a Harvest Objective System... it is a proven management tool. So why, I ask, do they need more rules and more paper work to manage deer (specifically archery deer)????? First they put deer to a draw... more units to follow.... then they outlaw "attractants"..... do they inforce it just on hunters or on all the home owners in rural AZ that feed the deer, elk, pigs, Squirrels, & Birds???? They "Create" all this Extra work just so that it "appears" that they are proactively managing the herds. I am sorry, but this is a JOKE.... another example of Big Government, Over Governing. It will next be how to limit the use of certain power optics, Double Bull blinds, Trail Cams, compound bows, rifle scopes.... yada, yada, yada..... They are already working to take the ability to recover game with a 4-Wheeler.... but don't waist that game meat!!!! Wake up!!! We have to STAND TOGETHER!!!! CnS

Atta Boy!!!

Thanks AZ. Not to my knowledge, no. But they really should if they don't. Can't be that difficult for them to do. I did see a company on a DVD set "How to Shoot Beyond Belief" (which is a great DVD by the way - 10 hours!) that if I remember right would do custom turrets for any scope other than Leupold. I'll see if i can find the name. Kevin, Great first post! I think you covered it, and covered it well! I have the "How to Shoot Beyond Belief" DVD's as well and they are a Wealth of knowledge! That video was produced by Best of the West. They created their own turreted hunting scope as well, and the company is known as Huskemaw Optics. These scopes are very well setup for the, 1000 yd. or less, hunter.... I have one on my 300 Wby Mag and I love the scope so far. Just Google Best of the West and go to their site to find Huskemaw Optics.... With the info they provide and the help they give.... it is a much more comprehensive turret system for hunters..... the turret on my rifle is built for my gun with my bullet and load.... it even tells me the windrift at 10 mph. It also has MOA windage hash marks in the reticle. The first custom turret is included in the scope price.... and then you can have others made for extra $$. The scope retails for about $1000.00.... last I checked. Matt, For your original post........ I think that any of the 300 Mag's. or 7mm mag's are the best for heavy hitting at long range.... not too big.... not too small. I also like those lighter rounds... 270 wsm, 257 Wby. and others.... but I think the bigger rounds buck the wind just a bit better. IMO.... I took an off the shelf 300 Wby and dumped a $1000.00 (including muzzle brake) into it and it will hang with most custom guns. It still has a factory trigger that I have have had worked twice... and I prefir that trigger to my buddy's Timney trigger ( he says mine would get him in trouble). I don't know what my gunsmith friend did this last time but man is that thing Sa-Weet!!! All my original work was done by Answer Products in Michigan. Best of luck with your new rig! When in Doubt.... Don't Cheap Out!!!! TJ, We should Always support ethical hunters.... even if their style is different from ours (yours). CnS Oh.... and Casey...... We know your gun can shoot! We know YOU can Shoot! But obviously, you still get buck fever, too! Dirk D.

A solid 50% of the reason for this push is an outfitter (who shall not be named ) in Southern AZ who uses Texas style feeders and ground blinds and Boasts nearly 100% success rates..... It caught the attention of the AZGF a couple of years back. Couple this with very high numbers of archery hunters in central AZ and nearly equal rifle vs. archery harvests in those units.... and the public YAPPING & posting of pictures on the web showing, "how to" or "does this work?"... We will all now act surprised that this day has arrived??? It was a team effort..... If you only new how much "Big Brother" hangs on every word we write here.... Rather than use the management tools that the AZGF has and generate consistant harvest percentages..... they would rather focus on how to limit success to insure more $$$$ based on "hunter opportunity". And "WE" gave them another tool to use, by highlighting a "grey area".......... And next to go will be ANY item that "might" improve your success rates... How about optics, cameras, maps, GPS's...... and everything else you have in your packs. There is no surprise in this movement.... it is a done deal. They are just makin' a mess of things.... and we helped find the way to do it. CnS

I'm with you my Friend!!! OH... You mean what did I put in for?? ....I'll.....never.....tell........ Okay.... We all put in together.... Elk- 42M archery (early), 39W, and 36B antlerless.... Ant.-42M Archery, 39W, and 36B antlerless.... Okay....come on! You know you atleast stared to smile once???? I just couldn't help myself.... it is a compulsive disorder.... Got it from my mother's side of the family. Dirk D.

I'm in!!

Ahhhh...... Just flopped down in my chair after hand delivering 21 envelopes to the Flag office, doing din-din at Granny's ( fat ol' primerib), and desert at the 31 Flavors (did you know that Tuesday is $1 a scoop night???). Hope ya'll didn't wait for me at the Olive Garden... Momma said she wanted steak instead of pasta, and so that is what she got! Anyhow.... best of luck to you all in the draw!!!! OH... ALMOST FORGOT!! extreme coues called me just as I got into Flag to make sure that I was, indeed, dropping off all his apps.... Ha Ha... man did I have him going for a minute about having left his in my other truck by mistake!!! He had enough time left to get to my house and make it to Flag in time..... I thought about letting him get to my house before I fessed up , but I couldn't do that to him...... ....It was fun to mess with a guy's heart strings for a minute!!!! Gotcha, Buddy!!! For all the times you got me!! CnS

Isn't that, like, calling the kettel black??? After all your family nick name is destined to be, Fatboy..... You and your Dad have all the same names and now this one, too.......

Sweet!!! Welcome to the site! Congats on a nice buck! Is that Jimmy Hoffman sitting next to you?!?!?? If so, tell him hello for me!!

Thats fine Gino is there an rules on how many pins I am allowed to have 12 is fine with me!!! I just know that it will turn into a 1/4" game if we play with target bows... Myself and Extreme Coues are planning to come and I am hoping that Huntn coues and family will join us.... Just a bit to soon for a solid commitment from us yet.....

Back in mid-summer of last year the Super Raffle results were discussed on a thread here on CW.com and a new member ehunt posted that he was the lucky winner of the desert sheep tag in the raffle. The Supper Raffle hunter may only hunt specific Nelsoni units in Northern AZ. I was the very fortunate to get to hunt with Eric Hunt on this awesome "Once in a Lifetime" hunt. Many days were spent afield in different units and many rams were passed. I have to say that Eric is a man of physical and mental toughness. He hunted hard and glassed harder. He earned a First Rate Ram back in Mid-November.... One of the Largest Nelsoni Desert rams taken in AZ in 2007. He folded this ram up with a one shot kill at over 300 yds. It was a Pleasure and an Honor to be apart of such a special hunt and I gained a new friendship with a first rate hunter in the process. Congrats Eric and thanks for Finally agreeing to post your ram! I am sure Eric can tell the story of his hunt better than I can.... hopefully he will. I appollogize for the bad light in some of the pics.... we were in the mouth of a deep canyon, with a 1000 foot vertical drop infront and 600 ft vertical climbs on both sides. With light fading in the canyon fast we did the best we could, but the brightness of the giant gorge below stole alot of color from the pics. Gino

Hey Fellas, how about no adjustable sites.... or scopes..... this is about hunters, not target pros.... otherwise I'll bring Jeremy and his target bow.... then we can all lose together... Just an idea....

Outstanding pics, Jimbo! BTW.... those close ups are what a lion mount is suppose to look like!!! You oughta sell those pics to some of the Taxi's in this state so they will know that!! That last pic in the rock pile is a bigger, older cat..... You guys gotta getcha some of those deer eaters outa there!!