Coues 'n' Sheep

I think Paul should become a sponsor/member on CW.com.

If it's legal, it's ethical. -TONY Tony, I think the point you are not addressing with that statement is that there is a difference between Morally Ethical and Legally Ethical. There is a difference to me, anyhow, and if we all chose the high road more often then we (hunters) would look less the bad guy in the eyes of those folks that are on the fence.... Knowing and Staying within your (and your equipment's) limitations can & will make you a better and more Morally Ethical hunter. IMO. And that I believe is what most of the guys are saying as well.

+1.... CC..... +1!!! Well said. BTW.... You hold your booze better than I do, cuz I was stone blind and passed out by like 10:30!! Buying that Ranger and installing a killer stereo system in it has turned me into a guy name, Al Coholic! Jimbo, I know what you meant and agree with what you said 100%!! I'd bet, we have all been too eager to "win" atleast once in our hunting careers... and it should be our goal to fight it within ourselves, whether we are carrying a Bow, a Rifle, or even when guiding someone else. CnS

+1...again,Casey!!! Well said.... 3) Trophy Quality; If you are interested in shooting the very first legal animal that crosses your path... (TJ)... then you might never have to shoot more than 150 yds your entire life. But, if you are only looking for that one, the trophy of a lifetime, every time you are hunting then you may have to rise to the occasion when it calls for it. CnS CnS....I'll have to check but I thought that was a law. You mean it isn't? TJ Bah HAHAHA!! TJ you crack me up!!! And yes it can be the law if you believe it is the law.....

It's alright, dude.... ... Everyone is just bored and resentfull that we didn't draw an tags.... and this was a light hearted thread..... sorry if you were offended. We will refrain from profiling if at all possible in the future.... but no promises, though. Member of Pope & Young Club, Bowhunters in Arizona, Foundation for North American Wild Sheep (now under a new name I believe), AZ Desert Bighorn Sheep Society, Grand Slam, and CouesWhitetail.Com... if I probably left other memberships, but these are my favorites... so I'll appolgize in advance..... cuz I for-dot the rest of them.... Coues 'n' Sheep

Heck Yeah, DB! Get the info into the right hands! They won't bust right away, I bet... timing is everything. And the $$$ might help fund you gas account to check you cameras! I'd dang sure be Loaded for Bear next time I went for that Camera! Those Bear hunters near Deer Creek in 22 had an all out gunfight with Pot Growers a few years back.... talk about spooky! No blood shed, thank goodness, but that one guy was lookin' into the business end of some Mexican's assult weapon, for a few seconds, before he got out of there.... not good!! That could have been you.... never feel like you are alone in the woods, cuz your not and Bad guys will always have guns....

Dang! Nice pics, DB!!! Thanks for sharing 'um!

My Boy's Crew did that Prescibed Burn for you guys down there.... You were in good hands! No worries! It need to burn... A little smoke now might save you all from a lot of smoke later.... BTW... Toady is National Sawyer Day! I only know that cuz my Boy is one. All the guys on his crew will be carrying as much weight on their backs today as Sawyers do everyday, to honor the Sawyers on his crew. HaHaHaHa! I thought that was funny! Their Superintendent is a Bad A$$ and obviously way frickin' cool to do that, IMO. But I bet those other guys won't think it is too funny......

You could be throwing Glass in a Stone house, there CC. There is a time and a place for shots like that.... and it has nothing to do with lazy. There are some of the best archery hunters in the country that can and will make an ethical kill at those ranges in the right conditions or situations..... .... I call it, Planning for the Worst, & Practicing to be the Best. It is only Lazy if it is done by some one who has not prepared for that kind of an opportunity. There are always those type of "hunters" in the woods..... but don't group the good with the bad. My $.02!

+1...again,Casey!!! Well said.... Sky, Yes, there are lazy hunters.... Just like there are bad cops, or shoddy construction workers, or worthless mechanics, or lousy computer programmers.... on and on and on. There are a couple of rotten apples in every box your open.... in life. I have harvested coues deer at 12-20 yds and as far as 420 yds, My boy has shot them at 11 yds and as far as 620 yds. The largest Coues deer hanging in my house was taken by my wife, at 170 yds. I think there are several factors: 1) Equipment; Archery vs. Rifle (or Muzzle Loader).... An archer might be able to hit an apple at 100 yds (in perfect conditions) and the next guy might not be able to shoot that good at 25 yds. Same goes for rifles... (100 yds or 700yds) The gun or bow has alot to do with that... I have two 300 wby mags, my LR setup would make you able to shoot a coues at up to 700 yds, maybe more.... my other rifle is a 400 yd maximum range gun... IMO. I own a 30-30 Win that I have killed elk with at 120 yds (open sites).... and would do it again.... but probablty would pass on a shot over 200. Know your limitations as well as the limitations of your gear. 2) Hunting Conditions; Arizona has some af the most diverse habitats in the country I think. Even from one end of a unit to another. Some areas it is very easy to close the distance to 100 yds or less with just a little bit of effort from the hunter.... and in other areas it may not be possible to close that distance to less than 400-600 yds. I have hunted in both... and unless you are very confident in yourself and your gear.... hunting some places in this state are not very productive... IMO. 3) Trophy Quality; If you are interested in shooting the very first legal animal that crosses your path... (TJ)... then you might never have to shoot more than 150 yds your entire life. But, if you are only looking for that one, the trophy of a lifetime, every time you are hunting then you may have to rise to the occasion when it calls for it. Of course I am outlining what I consider to be Far Right and Far Left, of this distance issue. I would bet that Most hunters fall somewhere in between. Hope this helps you find your answer. CnS

Well, the wife and I are buying a Ranger this week, and I will now have use for one less quad. The one I am selling is in very good condition it has not been abuse. Regularly serviced. Very good bike. I'd like to get $2750.00 for it. Thanks, CnS

Yeah, but.... The Place, on 51st & Bell just aint near as good as the one right across from Ruffs (I think it is still there). But Grannies' is still my favorite place in Flag-town...... Does anyone know where that Mogollon Brewery is.... they have the best "Heffy" EVER!!! Also big congrats on the Bird!! Been hearing of lots of tags going unfilled.... maybe they should go sit in front of Mike & Rhonda's....too.

Yeah, how many Out-of-Staters that come over here for the August hunt are just gunna show up and start hunting there Favorite spot in a closed unit????? The WM's are gunna have their hands full!

+1 on the Norma Brass, Kevin. We have had a hard time finding 215's as well the last ones I bought TAM, Tim, bought for me in Prescott somewhere... and dropped them by on his way to New Mexico. If you put the word out here and on LR Hunting you might find a conection that will help you find some..... Good Luck. CnS

Metalica???? WHERE???? I Wanna Go!!!!!! I to think your buck is alive.... maybe had a headache after losing that horn but probaly alive.... I'd bet you are going to play heck finding the other side.... Good Luck!!! CnS

If he is still married to your mother.... then possibly, but I'm guessing he is talking about his job boss. Anyhow..... we are trying to sell my Wheeler here! Lets stay on task!

Dude...... Bob..... You make me laugh!!!!!!

That NT is just plain, SWEET!!!!!! The other one is a dang nice rack, too. Thanks, for sharing. CnS

Not me... that quad is parked.... and waiting for a new home. Bowhunter4life was the last to ride it..... and it might be parked at his house one of these days soon if his Boss (Casey, that means Wife), gives him the green light! I also thought that the Tax rebate checks were gunna bring you guys out to spend that $$$ on hunting toys!! CnS

Nice Pics.... Thanks for sharing! I wish I'd have had a camera yesterday when I walked up on a bull that was packin' velvet out passed his 4ths already! The 4ths were only about 6-8" long but he was well on his way!

Before someone calls you a Bigot... .... I'll clarify that you are refering to Timber Rattlers.... Right. That pic of the pile of snakes gave me the chills.... I frickin' hate those things!!!!!

Bump..... Still for sale... I'm not in a hurry to sell, but just a reminder hunting season is just around the corner.....

Good to know!!! Thanks, Jack!

I, too, have no faith in the -08's...... The .308 is a good cal...... but the .30 cal. bullet is what gets it done in that round... IMO. I never shoot my .308 any more cuz it kicks as hard as my bigger .300 wby mags. but it is still a good elk round. I'd much rather have a kid or a woman shooting a .270 than any -08..... the .270 is much more suitable for that all purpose gun. Personally.... I would Never own a 7mm-08..... I won one at a banquet and it was gone as soon as I found a guy that had a want for one.... never even took it out of the box! And of course... you will always see a .300 Wby Mag on my elk hunts!!!!! CnS

Jack, Is the brand of gaiter you are using specificly for stingrays and snakes.... or did you just try it out and found that is works in that application as well?? I am only asking cuz I would have never thought of that and dislike stingrays as much as snakes! I also have used the type of snake gaiter that covers the top of the foot. Never have been struck at with them on but you do "feel" safer from snakes.... I don't think I would buy or wear the boots because of how high they come up your leg.... I would bet money that they will screw with your calf muscle, big time.... The gaiters are great on Speed Goat hunts when the grasses are high like they will be this year.... These are two of the only pics that I have of the snake gaiters I have used.