After watching the video 25 times i agree he's at least 385, and maybe more. The only thing that hurts him is his 1sts seem a little short, but he makes up for those with his 3rds. In my opinion bulls with genes like this seem to have shorter points on every year with heavy mass measurements. I saw a picture of the identical bull killed in 2010 on another site from the white mountain area. This bull is identical to mine and that bull in your video, and it goes 394 gross cause he has about a 5 inch cheater coming of his 5th point on the right, and that's the only diff. How much mass do you think that bull has in your video, mine had a little over 31 inches a side. Jay you know my email , send me a preview video of that giant you filmed there.