DesertDiesel

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Everyone knows you can't kill an animal in 2010 with a bow made in 2009 or older. I hope that is wrong because I only upgrade every 8-10 years.

Congrats on the new bow. I also recently jumped ship, from Hoyt to Elite. Don't get me wrong Hoyt makes a great bow and I'm not getting rid of my X-tec anytime soon. I just couldn't pass up the deal on the GT-500 that came by. I'll make a deal for you, I'll pass on the big bucks in Aug if you'll pass on the big bulls in Sept.

Note to self: After a long day at work, don't hop on the internet and fire away with a "run-away mouth", otherwise you'll end up saying things you wish you hadn't. And that is exactly what I did. Lark, I'd like to formally apologize for my comments to you. I see that on May 1 I stated you were wrong or otherwise misinformed, but I certainly wasn't calling you a liar, but I do understand how it could be taken that way. It wasn't my intent for you take it that way. If we ever got down to it, I'm sure that we'd find we have a lot more in common than we have differences. I hope we can put this behind us and move on. I'll leave it at that. To whoever started this thread, I'd also like to apologize for hijacking it or at least for participating in the hijacking. I should have either (1) kept my posts on target or (2) just shut my mouth all together. Any how, I've got to get, I've got a 23 archery bull tag to scout for. Best of luck and happy hunting to you all.

Lark, You are a jackass. For your information...due to your "enquiring" mind, I started my LR shooting in the USMC in 1991. After 3 yrs, I did a lateral transfer to the Army. I became 18 series qualified in 1994, (18B) that's SF weapons sergeant. In 1999 I went to the Army Sniper School. In Dec 2001 I deployed to Afghanistan for a 1 yr tour and what I did/accomplished there ISN'T YOUR F-ING BUSINESS! In 2004 I attended the Phoenix PD sniper school. All moron's seem to want to rate a shooters ability by body count. In AZ I have none and I'm grateful for that. By the way you don't know much about Law Enforcement snipers, I've got three former teammates with "sniper" shootings in Mesa AZ alone in the last couple of years. But AZ body counts wouldn't mean much in LR shooting anyway. A police sniper likely wont need to shoot very far, less than 50 yards most of the time, whereas a military sniper wants to be as far away as possible and still make the shot. Think about it Lark (I know it is hard to use both of your brain cells at the same time) but how is a police sniper going to make a long range shot in an urban environment (that means a lot of building around)...other than an airport. Go back to pleasuring yourself with Soldier of Fiction Magazine and romance novels about Vietnam.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international...mJNal3HgWlmEgRL Talk about a long range rig. An Accuracy International is about as good as they get and one in .338 LM. My last few months on the team (PD) the department purchased two of them in .308. Hands down the nicest factory rifle I've ever fired. Available to the civilian market as well.

From all the Tom Clancy reading and war moving watching you've done to gain your 'expertise' in this matter, I'd thought you'd of heard of it by now.

Huh? What the Sam heck are you talking about? What did you just say Willis? You are simply flat out wrong on this one Lark. Provided all things being equal, a heavy barrel will out preform a skinny barrel 9.999999 times out of 10. The advantage comes from making the barrel stiffer, ie less flexible. As for heat, the barrel heats from the inside out so it makes no sense that a heavy barrel permits rapid firing more so than a skinny barrel. A heavy barrel does dissipate heat faster than a skinny barrel however. All that means is that you needn't wait as long between strings of fire to cool the barrel. As for the military and police sniper's, I can speak from experience & not from Soldier of Fiction Magazine. We carried heavy barreled weapons because they were more accurate P. E. R. I. O. D. End of story. There are a lot of great barrel makers out there, Krieger, Hart, Douglas, Lilja, just to name a few. I also had a Schneider on my SR-90, didn't care for it much. The SR-90 on the team with a Lilja simply shot circles around the Schneider. But that is just one man's experience with two different rifles, do what you will with it. I've spoken with Dan Lilja a few times about the subject. He is extremely knowledgeable about barrels. If I was having a custom rifle built, I'd call him (you can find his # on his web page), tell him what your making and in what caliber and simply follow his advice. http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/longr...tical_rifle.htm http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/barre...of_accuracy.htm Phil- don't drink the Lilja Koolaid. This guy is as much a knucklehead as the rest. My Schneider barrels have been fantastic. My one Hart is a junker. Gotta have more than one sample to make an informed decision. Lilja is the same goofball that talked my buddy into a 7 twist, 3 groove barrel for his 7mag. After 80 rounds it wouldn't shoot the thin jacket 180 Bergers- would blow them up. By 200 rounds, it wouldn't shoot the heavy jacket Bergers. Now he is stuck with Accubonds as everything else blows up in mid-air. Berger recommends a 9 twist for that bullet. Lilja talked him into a 7 twist. I told him that Dan probably didn't have a different button for 3-groove 7mm. He called Dan and asked him- he didn't! He simply talked this guy into buying the ONLY 3-groove barrel he could provide. Dan thought he knew more about it than Walt Berger and Bryan Litz. Dan makes some of the best 22 RIMFIRE barrels in the world but I wouldn't buy one of his other barrels on a dare! I have talked to him enough times to form this opinion. He makes a better barrel than me, but he is a salesman and does NOT have the consumer's best interest in mind. Dennis - I'm somewhat shocked by your post. In over a decade in the sniping community, those are the first negative words I've ever heard about Dan Lilja or Hart for that matter. I understand the whole, "Gotta have more than one sample to make an informed decision" line of thinking, but I don't have endless amounts of cash to buy several barrels from several craftsmen in order to conduct my own tests. I will simply rely on my own experience as well as those I've worked with and trust with the same shooting background. Do some research on Lilja. Look at all the world championships people have won using his barrels. If he was the dumb butt you make him out to be, his company would have failed years ago. Yet he has built and earned a reputation as being a world class barrel maker. I will let Lilja's reputation stand for itself over your "buddy's" experience. Furthermore, I've personally used Lilja and have been extremely impressed with his barrels. So don't mind me if I continue to drink the "Lilja Koolaid."

Huh? What the Sam heck are you talking about? What did you just say Willis? You are simply flat out wrong on this one Lark. Provided all things being equal, a heavy barrel will out preform a skinny barrel 9.999999 times out of 10. The advantage comes from making the barrel stiffer, ie less flexible. As for heat, the barrel heats from the inside out so it makes no sense that a heavy barrel permits rapid firing more so than a skinny barrel. A heavy barrel does dissipate heat faster than a skinny barrel however. All that means is that you needn't wait as long between strings of fire to cool the barrel. As for the military and police sniper's, I can speak from experience & not from Soldier of Fiction Magazine. We carried heavy barreled weapons because they were more accurate P. E. R. I. O. D. End of story. There are a lot of great barrel makers out there, Krieger, Hart, Douglas, Lilja, just to name a few. I also had a Schneider on my SR-90, didn't care for it much. The SR-90 on the team with a Lilja simply shot circles around the Schneider. But that is just one man's experience with two different rifles, do what you will with it. I've spoken with Dan Lilja a few times about the subject. He is extremely knowledgeable about barrels. If I was having a custom rifle built, I'd call him (you can find his # on his web page), tell him what your making and in what caliber and simply follow his advice. http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/longr...tical_rifle.htm http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/barre...of_accuracy.htm

Sold pending payment

All BDC scopes must be set at a certain power to be accurate, usually it is the maximum power. I've owned the Nikon and Leupold bdc scopes. I didn't like the circles on the nikon, they were too big and left too much room for guessing/error. the small hash marks in the leupy are better in my opinion.

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Selling the safe queen. Less than 150 rounds down the barrel and yes I took the time to do a proper barrel break-in. The gun is an excellent shooter (sub moa). I just don't use it enough to justify keeping it. Follow the below link to see what its about. http://www.remington.com/products/firearms...el-700-vls.aspx I'm asking $625, comes with RCBS dies and 100 pc of brass. 480-223-7828.

If you all recall. 2008 was a very wet year. As a result, the Bulls had tremendous antler growth and there several huge, dare I even say world class bulls taken that year. 2010 is shaping up to be another awesome year for rain fall. The hills are green and the tanks are full! Congrats to all those who've been blessed with tags.

Elevation and temperature. If my memory is correct, every 2k feet of elevation change will alter your point of impact as will temperature changes....I want to say 20 degrees, but I'd have to check my notes on the latter.