520HUNT

I just read this entire thread, and nothing I saw here was bashing G&F. AZLance just stated the facts about the project. If stating the facts is "negative" or "bashing", that is ridiculous. And as far as letting the "biologists, scientists, and experts do their job", who is hindering them or stopping them? I think letting them do their jobs is how we have got to where we are now, with 22 dead sheep. I for one, hope the sheep succeed in the Catalina's, as I hope to draw a tag one day and kill a nice Ram up there. But right now, I'm not sure that will ever happen.

I don't know about you guys, but Black Friday is opening day of my unit 34a whitetail hunt... I won't be shopping for anything other than a large coueswhitetail.

So you are aiding and abetting the illegals?

The blue is loaded with monster Coues! I love that area.

Unit 22 is one of the best bear units in the state.

I never feel any sorrow or sympathy for a suffering animal. What I do feel is a strong urge to end the suffering, not because the animal might be suffering, but because that completes the challenge of killing an animal. I think there is way too much Political Correctness in hunting today. The whole idea of Hunter Education preaching to our kids that we don't kill, but we harvest animal is total BS. I harvest Pumpkins and corn not animals! If you cant come to grips with the idea that you KILLED an animal maybe you need to find a new sport. As far as laughing, I see nothing wrong with it. Heck, most of the funerals you go to now a days they tell funny stories so you can remember the person in a good light instead of in pain. Respect for the animal is much more than if you laugh or don't laugh. It comes down to the hard work you put into the hunt and using all edible parts of the animal. And I do say a little prayer after I kill an animal, it usually goes like this: "Lord, please let me get this animal back to the truck safely, and let the back straps melt in my mouth when I get home."

We all pay tax dollars to use public land, and we are all entitled to go where we want. Several times I have gone to the end of the road where I intended to hike to my glassing spot only to find another truck or quad there. Why should my hunt be stopped just because someone else is there? Who knows what that other person is doing? They may be scouting for a later hunt, they may be spotters for some high priced guide, or they may be walking the ridges and canyons trying to spook up a deer in hopes of seeing it. If I walk up to my spot to glass and they are sitting in the exact spot I want to glass I will usually ask them what there plan is. I will usually move a little away from them and set up to glass. Who knows if these guys are good glassers or weekend warriors with high priced optics? You might see something they don't see, and vice versa. I have never been taught that just because I park at the end of the road I am entitled to the entire area at the end of the road... It's called public land for a reason.

Great, and on the same day where the headline on Drudge Report is how Arizona is overwhelmed by Mosquitos.

So when can we hunt them?

It keeps kicking me out and I have to start over... Ugh! And here I thought all you game and fish lovers promised me if I didn't wait until the last day I wouldn't have any problems. I seriously don't understand how they continue to screw this up!

I don't know why you even need a license? I have never seen a game and fish officer in the field in my 15 years of hunting. Do they actually get out and work the units? Anyone ever seen one?

Wrong! If they don't find it, and it bleaches out, it belongs to the first one who finds it. Screw the poachers at AZGFD! You are an idiot if you cal G&F to report a kill...

http://ultimatefirearms.com

This is not a rare occurrence...

HuntHarder, your Pro wounding Elk comment hurts all hunters. We as hunters need to take ethical shots and quit wounding so May elk. Practice practice practice. You should change your signature to: Wound Em' Pro Staff

They are coming in fast to the Hoochie Mama call right now

Hopefully the guy who got shot was the same hunter who kept wounding bulls during archery season...

Get you kid a paintball gun and have him start shooting at you while you shoot. Duck and shoot, now that is stress.

http://www.kvoa.com/news/endangered-red-squirrel-accidentally-killed/

Not sure if this is the same guy, but if it is, This is an inside look into this game and fish officer. http://www.westvalleyview.com/content/buckeye-cop-fired-after-dps-probe http://members.tripod.com/phoenix_copwatch/mud/police-news/cw1076.html

Maybe this guy??? http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Geoff-Hossack/1718374678 https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=21268724&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=c77B&locale=en_US&srchid=595276981411102630435&srchindex=1&srchtotal=2&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A595276981411102630435%2CVSRPtargetId%3A21268724%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary&_mSplash=1

Or if this kid is actually cited, he can turn around and sue the department for wrong doing in the investigation and receive $100,000 from the tax payers and have the whole crime swept under the rug, like the Wildlife Officer who poached the elk.

The criminal fines for killing a Jaguar is $50,000 and the civil fines are $25,000 I think the hunters of this State are owed some money from the department!

I've been to Payson plenty of times, and I think all of those People of Walmart pictures come from the Payson Walmart.

Only in Payson...