bonecollector777

You said it so well I'm not even gonna add to it. Glad your seeing at least one thing that adds to my dislike of the azgfd.Healthcare.gov and azgfd.gov are in a close running for the most unfunctional website in history. They should get some sort of trophy. As for you guys saying why wait until the last day to update? Because you have every right in the world to believe the website will he functioning at 11:59.99 on the last day. The deadline is X and you should have every last second up until point X to update. I bet if you try and update your info in Utah at 11:59 it works just fine. Bottom line is azgfd is trying to save a buck by hiring a company incapable of setting up a functional system and screwing us in the end. I've said it once and I'll say it again. AZGFD= money and greed. Believe it if you like and if you don't believe it make sure to tell me all about how stupid and immature I am I'd love to hear it for the 500th time. Maybe it will make me stop talking about the department or something.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/08/deaths-bighorn-sheep-draws-criticism-relocation-project/?intcmp=latestnews

My comments, along with others that thought this was a poor idea, were made long before the re-intro... The BH Sheep are there Now(in spite of the "haters" letting AZGFD know their concerns beforehand)... There is nothing possitive about this program as now implimented... A solution to this mess??? Maybe the BH Sheep can be returned to Yuma, Maybe a realistic re-intro plan drawn-up by AZGFD with no input by the "wackos", and Maybe a few more BH Sheep tags given out while a better location is found(since they seem to do be doing well enough in some areas to justify takeing 30-40 from a herd to re-locate)... My new organization is to be called " Big Arizona Sheep Herd", or BASH. Mission statement is to find some shred of common sence in AZGFD's Sheep re-intro into the Catalinas... Membership, Donations can be sent directly to my Pay-Pal... ( I promise to only use a "small" percentage for over-head costs and trips to Belize for "conferences"...) Haha now that's an organization I can support! Sign me up!

I'm not the smartest person and will accept the friendship but I think I used 1st person in that statement haha. . Isn't third person he/she/him/hers/it's?

Still lots of water out there and we got a good snow last weekend. Definitely gonna hurt them a little I would say but there will still be some great bulls taken. Glad I drew last year though wouldn't complain if I did it again this year though!

Guess it won't let me delete it when I tried to. Keep at it I guess lol

Haha but I better delete this thread before anyone says something too offensive and hurts Jcubed's feelings.

Haha your attempts to insult me make me laugh. . Although I would agree there are a few homosexual employees in the azgfd. (Not literally) but you know what I mean.

Problem is that it is a huge conflict of interest issue thatid G &F employee is still employed with the same company that he sued for 100k. I'm all for constitutional rights but that doesn't set well with me... Ok carry on I know I strayed from topic but I don't like jcubed defending the wrong in this situation. Jcubed has a bad habit of defending The wrong whtmtnman. At least if the wrong is AZGFD. While we see that The employee received the money because of being treated unfairly Jcubed doesn't see that the whole situation as a whole is a bunch of BS and that Wagner shouldn't be working there and that all invloved should have been prosecuted. He doesn't see Wagner had any fault and that AZGFD did anything wrong. Like everything else involving the department. I guess you could say We're exact opposites. He sees them as Godly and perfect and I see them as filthy and worthless.

When someone like tjhunt asks to meet up with me to talk about it I'm more than willing to do so.

And for the record I'd be willing to meet up with anyone on here to discuss my feelings about azgfd and hear yours. Or discuss any topic for that matter. Just give me the time and place.

Haha comin' from AZlance. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black huh? Thanks Jcubed for not answering the question again haha I'll message you sometime and talk about it TJhunt. As for now I'll call it good on this post. Hang in there guys

Haha there we go again trying to bring up something completely irrelevant to the conversation. What you didn't see is the 8 PM'S from other guys that say there is a lot more to the story about that buck. You don't see the many PM'S I receive after having conversations like this with people telling me thanks for saying what they wanna say out loud on here. If they don't wanna say it out here that's fine but I'm gonna keep saying it because I really don't care if people like yourself don't like it and try and make azgfd the good guys. Bottom line is I speak my mind and LOVE getting people like yourself riled up. Even if you won't admit it and secretly I think you enjoy it yourself. You can make your points and I can make mine. People can agree or disagree with us but I'll keep it comin'

Hey now Jcubed don't go dodging my question what's your infatuation with the department? Wife work there? Mom work there? You dream of working there? What is it? As for the study more post less part you haven't given me a valid reason how that applies to this post. Instead you bring up your old arguments that you think you made a valid point in and instead show me that all you are is someone that will go to the end of the earth to defend the precious little azgfd. Then think because you throw some numbers around that it's gonna show people everything is alright and the department is doing great saving the world. Or maybe it's just because you're an attorney you think you have all the explanations and answers? I I'm legitimately curious as to what makes you so infatuated with them? Gonna get you an extra tag you think? Please explain.

And Jcubed for someone that doesn't like anything I say I find it very pleasing to see you post on every one of my threads knowing I have pissed you off or annoyed you. Thanks for that.

That actually went up on Fox News today so not too old of news. And I guess I should have used the word slaughter instead. Problem is its NOT only a few. It's A LOT. I agree if it were just a few it wouldn't be nearly as controversial and we could have a huntable population there someday. But fact of the matter is they are Being killed at an alarming rate.

Study more? I posted a link to a news story . . What's there to study? Jcubed honest question. . What position do you have in the azgfd or which family member works for them? Or do you honestly just get that Warm fuzzy feeling acting like AZGFD was sent from God?

300ultramag= One more azgfd s kisser

Umm. . You know the ones that are getting fed to the lions? Yeah those . .

Now he just said "that if the sheep in the catalinas happen to survive that success is secondary. The main goal of this committee getting together was to simply show that they could work together and come up with a plan and they have done that. So this whole thing is already a success even if all the sheep die." And then commissioner Harris came in and said the exact same thing that was just all about coming together for a good cause. Do these guys really think that people are now going to believe this was a good idea? Instead of creating a committee to show they can work together and carry out a specific plan using 30+ bighorn sheep why didn't they come up with a committee that didn't involve killing our wildlife?

That Brian Dolan guy is an absolute idiot. . "it's hard for any one of us to take credit for this great idea of putting bighorn sheep in the Catalinas" WTH? followed by "there are a lot more lions in the Catalinas than we thought and that's why there is so much predation" Really? Then that comment followed by "I think having all of these lions is a good thing. . or bad thing depending on how you look at it." hahaha what a joke

We used to have camels in AZ too way before 1990, should we reintroduce them? I read through the whole proposal and all it sounded like to me was tthen writing something up to make liberals and environmentalists happy. Between waiting to see which lions kill the sheep first and then trying to kill it and the thing about how they will handle a jaguar if caught Sounds Like A Bunch bunch of BS to keep other lion loving groups happy. And I think we already know how well the department does handling those Jaguars once they catch them. They do a great job! At killing them. .

I agree, we agree that lions should be culled and managed. Someone obviously doesn't agree but yet they still throw the sheep to the lions. If they were attempting to kill the Lions or if they had tried killing the lions before there wouldn't be this problem. Who is even trying to come up with other theories of why they are dying? It's pretty clear why isn't it?

They were kidding

I feel like somehow you are taking blame off of azgfd and trying to put it in the hunters somehow? Even the dumbest of us on here realize this was a horrible idea from the beginning. How did AZGFD not know it was as well? We would have been just fine without sheep in the Catalinas. We would have 31 sheep in other areas doing just fine. Seems as if azgfd did this because of pressure from environmentalist groups because even with as much as I hate them I don't think they are THAT dumb to just blindly throw in valuable sheep to feed the lions. But then again they are pretty stupid so who knows the reasons behind it. Why not get the sheep out and cut their losses before they lose ALL credibility with most of the hunters in az?